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School corporal punishment in the United States - Secular Sanity - Sep 12, 2018
Georgia School to Ask Parents to Paddle Students as Punishment
What? I did not know that corporal punishment was still used in U.S. schools. That’s messed up.
"Corporal punishment is still used in schools to a significant (though declining) extent in some public schools in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, North Carolina and Texas."
School Corporal Punishment in the United States
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - Zinjanthropos - Sep 12, 2018
Would that involve a white teacher paddling a black child's bum? Or vice versa? I imagine they have that worked out, as in teachers can only paddle the bum of a student that belongs to their race. Then again what about other cultural factors?
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - Syne - Sep 12, 2018
The decline in both active parenting and corporal punishment may have something to do with this:
Classroom Behavior Problems Increasing, Teachers Say
And reduced school discipline has definitely not stopped school shooters.
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - stryder - Sep 13, 2018
It's not just "active parenting", it's the entire ethics in regards to family in general.
If you went back 50+ years people likely married before having children, it would likely be taboo to have kids out of wedlock. It would of been a lot tougher for single parenting because of that.
Currently pregnancies can happen, the fathers might have nothing to do with the mothers or children. This generates a single parent situation where that parent might not have planned for children or even considered how well they would do if they had one beforehand. Furthermore in those situations to deal with coping with a child they might turn to allowing the kid to get away with acting out in a particular, or allow them to watch television or use a tablet/phone too much of the time. (That's where an electronic device is more of a parent than the parent is)
In the case of China, it's reported they are even intending to limit childrens "game" time to no more than 2 hrs a day. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45432863
One of the things that actually needs to be done is that teenagers need to have more tuition in what to expect with parenting (perhaps role playing how to plan parenting, what to do if they are thrust into parenting/single parenting and how to handle teaching younger children to behave without resorting to physical methods). The main problem however is the concern that teaching teenagers about parenting would suggest they should go out and get in that situation. If they realise the potential problems it might actually reduce it happening.
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - Secular Sanity - Sep 13, 2018
I don’t think that anyone should be hitting anyone, much less children.
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - confused2 - Sep 20, 2018
There's a situation here...
First assumption - a boy ran out into the road causing a bus driver to go into emergency stop mode. If French bus passengers don't wear seat-belts (like English bus passengers) then the act of forcing a bus driver to make an emergency stop may cause injury to passengers in the bus. The driver had split second to choose between injury to a child and possible injury to passengers in the bus.
Second assumption - girl screaming - the boy is being attacked by a bus driver for no reason.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45586180
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - Syne - Sep 20, 2018
If your first reaction as a 12 year old is to return an insult from an adult, you are not likely to do well in life.
Whether it takes corporal punishment to correct that behavior or not, it does need to be corrected...and almost any means of doing so would be justified by the probable life facing that kid.
RE: School corporal punishment in the United States - RainbowUnicorn - Sep 21, 2018
(Sep 20, 2018 10:15 PM)confused2 Wrote: There's a situation here...
First assumption - a boy ran out into the road causing a bus driver to go into emergency stop mode. If French bus passengers don't wear seat-belts (like English bus passengers) then the act of forcing a bus driver to make an emergency stop may cause injury to passengers in the bus. The driver had split second to choose between injury to a child and possible injury to passengers in the bus.
Second assumption - girl screaming - the boy is being attacked by a bus driver for no reason.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45586180
The girl screaming is a programmed response.
it shows there is some type of clear culture having been established.
i suspect the boy may have been considered a group leader by other chldren.
it would be interesting to see what type of pre-programmed responses that group of children have that were cavorting about the child whos life had just flashed in front of the buss driver.
delayed shock among other things is common place in children(even adults but rarely spoken of outside PTSD circles).
the crowd rection to the buss driver slapping the child would be well timed as an acceptable outlet for fear from a previous situation of potential group daring where the child runing in front of the buss had just created.
gender programing would be quite a thing
boys risking their life and laughing it off
girls screaming as fragile victims.
did any boys scream ? probably not because it is unacceptable in many/most cultures for boys to scream.
would a girl have run in front of the buss ?
would the buss driver not slapped a girl had the genders be reversed.
it is quite a fascinating piece of study for sociologists & psychologists
meanwhile teachers are probably only left in a crisis management position
(soo many typos from such a small touch of the [god knows wat virus]flu)