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The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Magical Realist - Mar 11, 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-military-keeps-encountering-ufos-why-doesnt-the-pentagon-care/2018/03/09/242c125c-22ee-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.b7f9764570c1

"In December, the Defense Department declassified two videos documenting encounters between U.S. Navy F-18 fighters and unidentified aircraft. The first video captures multiple pilots observing and discussing a strange, hovering, egg-shaped craft, apparently one of a “fleet” of such objects, according to cockpit audio. The second shows a similar incident involving an F-18 attached to the USS Nimitz carrier battle group in 2004.

The videos, along with observations by pilots and radar operators, appear to provide evidence of the existence of aircraft far superior to anything possessed by the United States or its allies. Defense Department officials who analyze the relevant intelligence confirm more than a dozen such incidents off the East Coast alone since 2015. In another recent case, the Air Force launched F-15 fighters last October in a failed attempt to intercept an unidentified high-speed aircraft looping over the Pacific Northwest .

A third declassified video, released by To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science , a privately owned media and scientific research company to which I’m an adviser, reveals a previously undisclosed Navy encounter that occurred off the East Coast in 2015.


Is it possible that America has been technologically leap-frogged by Russia or China? Or, as many people wondered after the videos were first published by the New York Times in December, might they be evidence of some alien civilization?


Unfortunately, we have no idea, because we aren’t even seeking answers.

I served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence for the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and as staff director for the Senate Intelligence Committee, and I know from numerous discussions with Pentagon officials over the past two years that military departments and agencies treat such incidents as isolated events rather than as part of a pattern requiring serious attention and investigation. A colleague of mine at To the Stars Academy, Luis Elizondo, used to run a Pentagon intelligence program that examined evidence of “anomalous” aircraft, but he resigned last fall to protest government inattention to the growing body of empirical data.

Meanwhile, reports from different services and agencies remain largely ignored and unevaluated inside their respective bureaucratic stovepipes. There is no Pentagon process for synthesizing all the observations the military is making. The current approach is equivalent to having the Army conduct a submarine search without the Navy. It is also reminiscent of the counterterrorism efforts of the CIA and the FBI before Sept. 11, 2001, when each had information on the hijackers that they kept to themselves. In this instance, the truth may ultimately prove benign, but why leave it to chance?...."


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - C C - Mar 11, 2018

(Mar 11, 2018 06:23 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-military-keeps-encountering-ufos-why-doesnt-the-pentagon-care/2018/03/09/242c125c-22ee-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html

[...] Is it possible that America has been technologically leap-frogged by Russia or China? Or, as many people wondered after the videos were first published by the New York Times in December, might they be evidence of some alien civilization? [...] Unfortunately, we have no idea, because we aren’t even seeking answers. [...]


Stargate bias? Don't worry about it because if Earth encounters / utilizes alien technology, it's a dogmatic given that contact will be established slash mediated afterwards by USA secret military forces. 'Cause that's the way it happens in the movies / TV shows (with Canadian participation thrown in due to most of them being made in lower studio-costs Vancouver). Never mind that every major country has their take on that (Doctor Who fancies the UK, both giant monsters and space-aliens love Japan, etc).

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RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Syne - Mar 11, 2018

Why doesn't the Pentagon care? Because they know it's not a security concern.


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Magical Realist - Mar 12, 2018

Here's a third video released by the Pentagon showing an oval shaped object being tracked by the camera of a Navy F/A 18 jet pilot in 2015. Note the excitement of the pilots as they react to it:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/930198/Shocking-UFO-encounter-mysterious-oval-US-military-Pentagon-aliens


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Leigha - Mar 12, 2018

Maybe the Pentagon is behind it. I believe in conspiracy theories over multiple, random UFO sightings, in many cases. I believe that ''we'' are not alone, but I don't think that some of these videos necessarily prove UFO sightings, and if the government has any involvement, it just makes you wonder. Or if it could be technology from another country entering our air space?


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Magical Realist - Mar 12, 2018

The secret military craft theory has always seemed to me untenable because why would the military be hiding these high speed oval shaped craft? There would come a point where they would be used in combat anyway and so be exposed. If we have craft like this, why aren't we using them? The effort to hide such a technology all these years would far exceed the benefit of keeping it hidden. There would be no military advantage in keeping it secret. There would only be military advantage in using it.


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Syne - Mar 12, 2018

(Mar 12, 2018 02:42 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: The secret military craft theory has always seemed to me untenable because why would the military be hiding these high speed oval shaped craft? There would come a point where they would be used in combat anyway and so be exposed. If we have craft like this, why aren't we using them? The effort to hide such a technology all these years would far exceed the benefit of keeping it hidden. There would be no military advantage in keeping it secret. There would only be military advantage in using it.

Not if they are surveillance/spying vehicles. That is what you believe your aliens use them for, right?


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Magical Realist - Mar 12, 2018

(Mar 12, 2018 03:22 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Mar 12, 2018 02:42 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: The secret military craft theory has always seemed to me untenable because why would the military be hiding these high speed oval shaped craft? There would come a point where they would be used in combat anyway and so be exposed. If we have craft like this, why aren't we using them? The effort to hide such a technology all these years would far exceed the benefit of keeping it hidden. There would be no military advantage in keeping it secret. There would only be military advantage in using it.

Not if they are surveillance/spying vehicles. That is what you believe your aliens use them for, right?

A fast speed disc or oval would be more suitable for combat than survelliance, especially in this age of satellites and drones. No..ufos aren't human spying vehicles.


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Syne - Mar 12, 2018

(Mar 12, 2018 03:39 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Mar 12, 2018 03:22 AM)Syne Wrote: Not if they are surveillance/spying vehicles. That is what you believe your aliens use them for, right?

A fast speed disc or oval would be more suitable for combat than survelliance, especially in this age of satellites and drones.  No..ufos aren't human spying vehicles.

Depends on who owns them, and their weapons weight capacity.
So aliens would need spy crafts that largely allude detection, but humans don't? Sure. Rolleyes


RE: The military keeps encountering ufos...why doesn't the Pentagon care? - Magical Realist - Mar 12, 2018

(Mar 12, 2018 03:55 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Mar 12, 2018 03:39 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Mar 12, 2018 03:22 AM)Syne Wrote: Not if they are surveillance/spying vehicles. That is what you believe your aliens use them for, right?

A fast speed disc or oval would be more suitable for combat than survelliance, especially in this age of satellites and drones.  No..ufos aren't human spying vehicles.

Depends on who owns them, and their weapons weight capacity.
So aliens would need spy crafts that largely allude detection, but humans don't? Sure.  Rolleyes

Why do aliens need spycraft when almost all sightings show a concerted effort at gawdy display? I mean these things are lit up like carnival rides. So whatever the intent of the ufo, it isn't to hide.