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Big Bang Wasn't The Beginning + Advanced Life May Exist in a Form Beyond Matter - C C - Sep 22, 2017
The Big Bang Wasn't The Beginning, After All
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/21/the-big-bang-wasnt-the-beginning-after-all/#5c1cb4b755df
EXCERPT: [...] The conclusion was inescapable: the hot Big Bang definitely happened, but doesn't extend to go all the way back to an arbitrarily hot and dense state. Instead, the very early Universe underwent a period of time where all of the energy that would go into the matter and radiation present today was instead bound up in the fabric of space itself. That period, known as cosmic inflation, came to an end and gave rise to the hot Big Bang, but never created an arbitrarily hot, dense state, nor did it create a singularity. What happened prior to inflation — or whether inflation was eternal to the past — is still an open question, but one thing is for certain: the Big Bang is not the beginning of the Universe....
"Advanced Life May Exist in a Form That's Beyond Matter"
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2017/09/-the-alien-observatory-advanced-life-may-exist-in-a-form-thats-beyond-matter.html
EXCERPT: Astrophysicist Paul Davies at Arizona State University suggests that advanced technology might not even be made of matter. That it might have no fixed size or shape; have no well-defined boundaries. Is dynamical on all scales of space and time. Or, conversely, does not appear to do anything at all that we can discern. Does not consist of discrete, separate things; but rather it is a system, or a subtle higher-level correlation of things.
Are matter and information, Davies asks, all there is? Five hundred years ago, Davies writes, " the very concept of a device manipulating information, or software, would have been incomprehensible. Might there be a still higher level, as yet outside all human experience, that organizes electrons? If so, this "third level" would never be manifest through observations made at the informational level, still less at the matter level.
We should be open to the distinct possibility that advanced alien technology a billion years old may operate at the third, or perhaps even a fourth or fifth level -all of which are totally incomprehensible to the human mind at our current state of evolution.
Susan Schneider of the University of Pennsylvania appears to agree. She is one of the few thinkers—outside the realm of science fiction— that have considered the notion that artificial intelligence is already out there, and has been for eons.
Her study, Alien Minds, asks "How would intelligent aliens think? Would they have conscious experiences? Would it feel a certain way to be an alien?"
While we are aware that our culture is anthropomorphizing, Schneider imagines that her suggestion that aliens are supercomputers may strike us as far-fetched. So what is her rationale for the view that most intelligent alien civilizations will have members that are superintelligent AI?
Schneider presents offer three observations that support her conclusion for the existence of alien superintelligence...
MORE: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2017/09/-the-alien-observatory-advanced-life-may-exist-in-a-form-thats-beyond-matter.html
RE: Big Bang Wasn't The Beginning + Advanced Life May Exist in a Form Beyond Matter - Zinjanthropos - Sep 29, 2017
I once started a thread on another forum as to whether we would be able to recognize an alien life form when we encounter it. One of the questions that came up is whether our existence or universe is beyond the observational limit of colossal life forms and we are merely the little things they theorize about. IOW's we are microscopic at best.
There's the aspect of camouflaged or simply invisible life forms or forms that we're unable to sense at all. We could either be climbing all over them or one could be standing right beside us. IOW we are not physically equipped to even notice.
Also recognizing life forms in suspended animation, which begs the question as to whether a life form can put knowledge on hold while in stasis. (there's one for the omni god believers).