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Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - C C - May 29, 2017
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ricky-john-best-taliesin-namkai-meche-named-as-victims-in-deadly-portland-stabbing/
EXCERPT: Two men were stabbed and killed in Portland on Friday after they tried to intervene while a man shouted racial slurs at two women, one of whom was wearing a hijab, police said.
Police on Saturday identified the victims as 53-year-old Ricky John Best and 23-year-old Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche. Best died at the scene, and Meche died at a hospital, police said. Micah David-Cole Fletcher, 21, of Portland was also stabbed in the attack and is in serious condition at a Portland hospital, police said. His injuries are not believed to be life-threatening, police said.
In a press conference Saturday, Mayor Ted Wheeler said the victims were heroes, CBS affiliate KOIN reports....
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Magical Realist - May 29, 2017
This is so tragic. It's exactly something I would've done---intervened in someone attacking young women with hatespeech.
But I don't use public transportation. I don't trust the people that ride on it. I wonder if that makes me an elitist.
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Zinjanthropos - May 30, 2017
(May 29, 2017 05:35 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: But I don't use public transportation. I don't trust the people that ride on it. I wonder if that makes me an elitist.
I think it makes you cautious and wary, an inherent trait. Does it assist you in avoiding a potential life threatening situations? Possibly a good quality to have.
How would you have dealt with the situation, physically or verbally? Obviously the victims chose physical confrontation or were forced to deal with it. Knowing that words don't kill and that you have a penchant for being cautious, would discretion serve you better? Verbally challenge at a safe flight distance perhaps?
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Magical Realist - May 30, 2017
(May 30, 2017 02:00 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(May 29, 2017 05:35 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: But I don't use public transportation. I don't trust the people that ride on it. I wonder if that makes me an elitist.
I think it makes you cautious and wary, an inherent trait. Does it assist you in avoiding a potential life threatening situations? Possibly a good quality to have.
How would you have dealt with the situation, physically or verbally? Obviously the victims chose physical confrontation or were forced to deal with it. Knowing that words don't kill and that you have a penchant for being cautious, would discretion serve you better? Verbally challenge at a safe flight distance perhaps?
There's no evidence the victims did anything physical. They just verbally intervened and got stabbed.
That's why I said: It's exactly something I would've done---intervened in someone attacking young women with hatespeech. What would you have done. Laughed at the two girls?
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Zinjanthropos - May 30, 2017
(May 30, 2017 06:46 PM)PMagical Realist Wrote:(May 30, 2017 02:00 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(May 29, 2017 05:35 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: But I don't use public transportation. I don't trust the people that ride on it. I wonder if that makes me an elitist.
I think it makes you cautious and wary, an inherent trait. Does it assist you in avoiding a potential life threatening situations? Possibly a good quality to have.
How would you have dealt with the situation, physically or verbally? Obviously the victims chose physical confrontation or were forced to deal with it. Knowing that words don't kill and that you have a penchant for being cautious, would discretion serve you better? Verbally challenge at a safe flight distance perhaps?
There's no evidence the victims did anything physical. They just verbally intervened and got stabbed.
That's why I said: It's exactly something I would've done---intervened in someone attacking young women with hatespeech. What would you have done. Laughed at the two girls?
I think there is more to this story than what's being reported. A person afraid of public transport wielding off a crazy SOB? I'd probably have to jump in there and save you too, unless I was on a bus going somewhere. First thing they teach first responders is to save their own ass, if too dangerous then get away.
Fact is neither one of us can say for certain what we would do, unarmed and facing a maniac with a knife. In the US most people are packing heat so the perp's lucky he wasn't shot dead. All over something stupid, what a waste.
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Magical Realist - May 30, 2017
Quote:A person afraid of public transport wielding off a crazy SOB?
Yep..third time. That's what I'd do. Are you reading impaired?
RE: Father of four, recent college grad named as victims in deadly Portland stabbing - Zinjanthropos - May 31, 2017
Sigh....my hero (bats eyes)