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Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Syne - Dec 15, 2016

Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns

"Gun store owners told NBC News that since November 8 they're seeing up to four times as many black and minority customers — and black gun groups are reporting double the normal number of attendees at their meetings since the election.

While more gun owners are non-Hispanic whites than blacks, 41 percent versus 19 percent in a 2014 Pew Research Center survey, blacks views on gun ownership have shifted in the past few years.

In 2014, 54 percent of blacks surveyed by Pew said gun ownership does more to protect people from crime than put people's safety at risk, versus 29 percent who said that in 2012, almost double. White attitudes also shifted more positively towards gun ownership during that time but not by as much, up 62 percent from 54 percent."


I see this as nothing but good news.
  • More armed blacks may deter black on black violence and murder. Possibly perfect test case for the correlation of crime to gun ownership.
  • Their fear actually reinforces the original reason for 2nd Amendment, since they are afraid of their government. This rebuts a typical left talking point, scoffing at the idea that the US government could possibly become tyrannical.
  • They may learn more about typical gun owners, reinforcing shared values and healing some race baited divisions. Maybe they will go to the range and get some training, learning how responsible most gun owners are.
  • They may gain a new perspective on Republicans, who fight to retain 2nd Amendment rights. Especially after jumping through the hoops in Democrat states and cities to legally purchase and own a gun.
  • They will offset the loss in gun sales due to Hillary losing and Obama no longer scaring the market.



RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Magical Realist - Dec 15, 2016

Yeah..isn't it wonderful that minorities now have to arm themselves to protect themselves and their loved ones from all of Trump's alt right racist supporters who are now out in full force attacking them and bullying them in public. I'm so thrilled by this! This will surely be a sweet bonding moment for minorities and redneck gun nuts. lol!


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Syne - Dec 15, 2016

(Dec 15, 2016 08:30 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Yeah..isn't it wonderful that minorities now have to arm themselves to protect themselves and their loved ones from all of Trump's alt right racist supporters who are now out in full force attacking them and bullying them in public. I'm so thrilled by this! This will surely be a sweet bonding moment for minorities and redneck gun nuts. lol!

Yes, some people have a vested interest in blacks being unable to protect themselves and remaining on the vote plantation.


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Carol - Dec 15, 2016

(Dec 15, 2016 08:30 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Yeah..isn't it wonderful that minorities now have to arm themselves to protect themselves and their loved ones from all of Trump's alt right racist supporters who are now out in full force attacking them and bullying them in public. I'm so thrilled by this! This will surely be a sweet bonding moment for minorities and redneck gun nuts. lol!

I am assuming you would like to do something positive about this social tension.  I have a box of safety pins and have pinned one to all my blouses and sweaters.  I started doing this when a neighbor explained this is a way of letting people know we are safe people to speak with and not with the crowd that is threatening.   It is kind of a way of voting and it would be great if more people were wearing a safety pin than the number of people who are not wearing a safety pin.


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Zinjanthropos - Dec 15, 2016

Seriously, I don't believe everything written about Trump. I think there's a bigger problem with news agencies playing the game or just influencing the population. Sheeple.


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Secular Sanity - Dec 15, 2016

(Dec 15, 2016 05:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: I think there's a bigger problem with news agencies playing the game or just influencing the population. Sheeple.

I think the problem lies with the demands of consumers. Advocacy journalism sells in today's market. Consumers want news that is intentionally biased.  It’s an industry.  Whatta ya gonna do(?)  Undecided


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Carol - Dec 15, 2016

(Dec 15, 2016 05:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Seriously, I don't believe everything written about Trump. I think there's a bigger problem with news agencies playing the game or just influencing the population. Sheeple.

The big deal is not Trump but the people who believe they are now free to express their hatred of others.  I believe the media does play an important part in this drama, and I think the media problem is an education problem.  The flood of people finding fault with today's media is growing.  

During the Reagan years when I became an advocate for the homeless, we had nothing to help these folks, and today we are well organized to help them, although this is still far from adequate help.  The point is, to get from nothing to the awareness and organization we have today, I had to turn myself into a circus freak to call media attention to the problem at the height of a very long recession when people were loosing their homes and businesses were closed.  Like hello, there is reality and people were blind to it.   The media would not print the facts about oil and economics.  We were not being told what the US position with Israel and Muslim nations had to do with the oil embargo and what that had to do with the economy.  They would not do a story on laws to protect the middle class standard that were hurting the poor.  They didn't even want to talk about the lack of jobs.  But if I did something outrageous to create news, the media responded.  I call this completely irresponsible media, and in the past journalist took their jobs and the defense of our democracy very seriously.  Our local paper is titled the Register Gaurd, but today they have no sense of the meaning of that name.  It has become a sensationalist rag, poorly supported by a public that is now completely self-absorbed.  The problem is education and cultural.  Trump is just riding the crest of the wave.

Secular Sanity, What I want to speak with the local city council about is city sponsored social gatherings free to the public and with the intention of mixing all people.


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Zinjanthropos - Dec 15, 2016

Shades of movie character Elliot Carver, the media mogul in Tomorrow Never Dies....a James Bond flick. Come to think of it, that movie premiered in 1997. In the last 20 years has mega media taken it to heart? Create the news instead of reporting on the real thing?


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Carol - Dec 16, 2016

(Dec 15, 2016 07:24 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Shades of movie character Elliot Carver, the media mogul in Tomorrow Never Dies....a James Bond flick. Come to think of it, that movie premiered in 1997. In the last 20 years has mega media taken it to heart? Create the news instead of reporting on the real thing?

I do believe the profit motive has pushed the media in this direction.  But I also think this materialism comes through our education for technology for military and industrial purpose.  A liberal education is focused on concepts, values, and character, and people with this education would make a different demand on the media and look for different leadership qualities, and in general conduct themselves differently.  

I do not mean to imply there could be no improvement on past education, but what is our goal for education?  One of my education history books list about 8 possible goals for education.  There is a religious goal, a psychological goal, a sociology goal, a science and technology goal.   We are talking about fearful minorities buying guns to protect themselves because we dropped education for good moral judgment and left moral training to the church.  Now we have a self centered, amoral society with many dangers.


RE: Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns - Zinjanthropos - Dec 16, 2016

Does the news look more believable when a fantastic looking blue eyed blonde is reporting it, no matter what the bias is? She probably owns 10 guns, who knows? 

Are minorities buying guns because they're outgunned by the majority? Am I to believe this is the case? 

Sometimes I think of an area like the Middle East for instance, seems to me that the entire population there has some form of PTSD. I mean they're in constant fear of an early violent death/war plus they witness it on a daily basis. Seems like we're getting to that stage in North America too. Countries full of people at different levels of depression owning firearms can't be good. The news agencies just keep pouring gas on the flame of emotions, violence and great looking people sell medicines * etc. along with other merchandise. 

* - I don't know what's worse ....a country full of potentially homicidal perps or the side effects of the shilled medications. Wink