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On the dubious nature of belief - Magical Realist - Sep 3, 2026 I am coming around to the idea that believing in anything, quite aside from and in fact irregardless of what is believed in, is a form of inauthentic and fear-based being that must be resisted at all costs. Belief just as a mental state that makes us want to defend it and selectively validate it in what we pay attention to and what we ignore. I don't think humans are naturally hardwired for such malware, having spent large swathes of my life devoted to belief systems that were totally delusional and stunted my growth into a more conscious and fulfilled human being. Evolutionarily-speaking belief came along later after our nomadic sojourns across the African plains. It is the software that we got downloaded with once we settled down in stable agricultural societies that turns us into complacent and passive and functioning members of the tribe. Prozac for the subversive thinker. Soma for the questioner of sacred truths. The question then becomes "can one even live sanely without a structured belief system to filter out a reality that everywhere happens with no regard to us whatsoever?" That's the experiment we all have to make here. To see if such is even possible in a world that daily placates us with comforting lies and spurious half-truths or else paralyzing us with baseless fearmongering all designed to keep us as robotic and controllable as possible. “Belief in the traditional sense, or certitude, or dogma, amounts to the grandiose delusion, "My current model" -- or grid, or map, or reality-tunnel -- "contains the whole universe and will never need to be revised." In terms of the history of science and knowledge in general, this appears absurd and arrogant to me, and I am perpetually astonished that so many people still manage to live with such a medieval attitude.”― Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger: Die letzten Geheimnisse der Illuminaten oder An den Grenzen des erweiterten Bewusstseins "Belief is a toxic and dangerous attitude toward reality. After all, if it’s there it doesn’t require your belief- and if it’s not there why should you believe in it?”— Terence McKenna RE: On the dubious nature of belief - Syne - Sep 3, 2026 Yet you believe in UFOs, ghosts, etc.. 9_9 Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness. RE: On the dubious nature of belief - Ostronomos - Sep 3, 2026 I wrote the following on another forum and thought it applies to your resistance toward belief: There is no denying that we are animals. But we also have immortal essences within us. The atheist is unaware that this essence or spirit continues after the death of the body. KFox is blinded by Luciferian rationality (or some semblance of it). The belief that only matter exists, rather than mind (which is what created the universe). This is truly unfortunate. As it dismisses the possibility of anything beyond his limited senses. The ultimate metaphysical identity is beyond time and space. However, given the fact that I currently possess far too limited an intelligence, I cannot prove it unlike the use of consciousness expanding substances. However, the infinite expanse of the mind is a possibility that KFox is unwilling to accept due to his feeble mindedness. I am only here to lend a helping hand. I only hope he opens his eyes for the first time and embraces the ultimate. And for those of you equipped to understand it, see this: RE: On the dubious nature of belief - Magical Realist - Sep 3, 2026 (Yesterday 07:55 PM)Syne Wrote: Yet you believe in UFOs, ghosts, etc.. 9_9 I have no beliefs regarding ufos and paranormal phenomena. I only know they exist as complete unknowns while exhibiting certain distinctive characteristics. Like consciousness and death. And I also acknowledge what they could possibly be without settling on one dogmatic belief. You really have no ability to discuss anything intellectually rather than always trying to make it personal in some way? Why are you such a petty little drama queen? RE: On the dubious nature of belief - Syne - Sep 3, 2026 Sure, buddy, you keep believing that. 9_9 |