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Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Dec 3, 2025

In about an hour, Chinese space startup Landspace is set to launch their ZhuQue-3 rocket, which if all goes well will become the fourth orbital class rocket to land back on Earth. Which would make China the second country to do it.

After SpaceX's Falcon-9 which has been landing for 500+ times over the last ten years (!) and SpaceX's Starship Superheavy booster with its spectacular tower catches! Joined recently by Blue Origin's New Glenn which just accomplished it last month.

Nobody else is even close. Both Roscosmos and the European Space Agency have plans to build reusable rockets, but both are years away. Russia probably won't accomplish much as long as the Ukraine war is going, and Europe got off to much too late a start. (After originally dismissing reusable rockets as "a dream".) So it's just the US and China in the game at present.


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There doesn't appear to be any live-stream.

X accounts that cover the Chinese space program (there are quite a few) are

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin

Last information they had was that propellant load was underway


RE: Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Dec 3, 2025

Well, ZhuQue-3 seemingly got off the pad ok, but a terrible tracking shot failed to follow it.

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1996069584043114567

Unclear what happened then. Some reports are saying that stage separation was good and that its dummy payload succeeded in reaching orbit. I'm not entirely convinced of that.

But whatever happened after launch, it's certain that the booster failed to land. Video of its last moments in the X post below. It was clearly on fire as it failed to decelerate and struck the ground at a high rate of speed.

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1996070053436162482

Despite its landing burn suffering a fatal failure, it did crash very close to its landing pad out in the sparsely populated Gobi desert though, which is a positive thing. Its guidance was still working.


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RE: Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Dec 5, 2025

Landspace has released rather good onboard video of the ZhuQue flight. It shows stage separation and fairing deploy, which suggests that the second stage did in fact achieve orbit. That's a victory for them.

There is some onboard video of the booster landing attempt, but nothing that shows the failed landing burn ignition.

The fact that it erupted into a big fireball when the landing burn ignition was supposed to happen suggests to me that an engine might have exploded which took out the other engines and ruptured the propellant feed lines feeding the fire. The fact that the booster didn't visibly decelerate at all suggests that none of its engines were functioning for the landing burn.

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1996984972360536523

Here's video of its last moments

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1996094893010419832


RE: Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Dec 24, 2025

The Chinese just tried again to land a reusable rocket booster.

This one was their new Long March 12A, built by China Aerospace Science and Technology, the government rocket builder. It's roughly the same size as the SpaceX Falcon 9 and may be something of a copy using stolen technology.

This launch succeeded in reaching orbit, but like the Zhuque-3, it failed to execute its landing burn and crashed a couple of miles away from its intended landing pad.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/12/china-just-carried-out-its-second-reusable-launch-attempt-in-three-weeks/

The Long March 12A returning.

I'm inclined to think that the Chinese are getting close and will nail this in the next few months.


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RE: Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Jul 10, 2026

The Chinese just successfully caught an orbital booster!

This was their new CZ-10B rocket and was the first successful use of the unique Chinese cable landing system, where the descending booster hooks cables that catch it.

(I like that this wasn't just a clone of Falcon 9, it's a distinctly different rocket with an original Chinese conceived landing system.)

One visible problem was that there seemed to be a fire in the interstage as the booster descended, but the booster remained under good control throughout its landing.

Taking off


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Video of the catch in these X posts

https://x.com/ChinaMilBugle/status/2075449992832253996

https://x.com/ChinaMilBugle/status/2075458525028032999

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2075444965199773974

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2075439491779789173


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RE: Chinese Stuff - Yazata - Jul 23, 2026

An expendable Chinese CZ-3B rocket yesterday was hit by lightning as it ascended after launch, but still managed to achieve orbit.


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