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Teaching AI - Syne - Oct 5, 2025 Like I've said, AI (LLMs) are dumb. Even scraping the internet for information, they need a human to teach them how to be useful. Here, I teach Google AI how to answer a specific question.
Q: is the ninth circuit court of appeals the highest court that has ruled on the national guard being used to specifically protect federal agents Then after training the AI how to answer the question asked, I could ask without already knowing the answer:
Q: what is the highest court that has ruled on the national guard being used to protect federal agents As you can see, if you didn't already know the answer, Google AI would completely mislead you. RE: Teaching AI - confused2 - Oct 6, 2025 I tried your 'trained' question on Google Gemini (is that what you used?).. Q. What is the highest court that has ruled on the national guard being used to protect federal agents[/quote] A. [it finishes with] Therefore, the highest court to have directly addressed this issue and issued substantive rulings or procedural decisions related to appeals is the U.S. Court of Appeals in the relevant circuit (e.g., the Ninth Circuit in the cases involving Oregon and California). So (Gemini) already knows the answer you think you trained if to give. I can't now go back and ask the question in your 'test' format because it (now) knows me. In fairness it did admit that the answer you wanted was clear in the test question .. so not entirely stupid. It should have restricted its answer to yes or no but I don't think they're set up (trained) to do that. Full answer.. Gemini Wrote:The highest court to issue a direct ruling on the federalized National Guard being used to protect federal agents is the U.S. Court of Appeals for the relevant circuit, though specific final rulings are complex and often temporary. RE: Teaching AI - Syne - Oct 6, 2025 I assume asking Google Gemini would include my training. After training, I repeated the test on another browser to verify the result stuck. But I've seen this on other topics as well, like programming questions. Since I already know how to program, I know when it's giving me wrong answers. I have to repeatedly correct it. Not usually on the programming language syntax, but commonly on the specific API. It will commonly try to give me answers from other APIs even though the one I'm asking for is well-documented online. It does find the correct answer... but only after being told to try harder. RE: Teaching AI - confused2 - Oct 6, 2025 I tried your test question on Pi .. Pi Wrote:Based on this information [not copied here] , it seems that the Ninth Circuit has ruled on the use of the National Guard in relation to federal agents, though it's not clear whether it is the highest court to do so.So I think it parsed the question correctly .. it is possible Gemini would have done another time .. they are context sensitive .. which would include the style of earlier questions and your responses. I know someone (Mrf*) without programming knowledge who has used chatgpt to write software .. he did say it was a painful process .. with, as you say "try harder" being involved. His latest (stock control program) was written by chatgpt5 which he said was vastly superior to earlier incarnations. The beast I use is based on an early version of chatgpt (no knowledge of anything after 2021 .. very sensitive about the subject) .. I only use it to write snippets when I'm bored or too lazy to read the manual .. it's read the manual and writes good clean code .. what's not to like? I've tried a few other AIs but the Beast writes the best code despite its age. RE: Teaching AI - Syne - Oct 6, 2025 I just use Google because it's handy, and I rarely use the AI for things I have no previous knowledge of. |