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7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Magical Realist - Sep 4, 2025

An interesting overview of some rather anti-philosophical thinking from the past century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ9ZBFBMTQA


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - C C - Sep 6, 2025

Book number one, "The Denial of Death", by Ernest Becker.

Book number two, "Prometheus Rising" by Robert Anton Wilson

Book number three, "The Myth of Mental Illness" by Thomas Sass.

Book number four, "Finite and Infinite Games" by James P. Carse.

Book number five, "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race" by Thomas Legatti.

Book number six, "The Technological Society" by Jacqu Elul.

Book number seven, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julian James.


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Syne - Sep 6, 2025

Szasz argues that it does not make sense to classify psychological problems as diseases or illnesses, and that speaking of "mental illness" involves a logical or conceptual error.[2] In his view, the term "mental illness" is an inappropriate metaphor and there are no true illnesses of the mind.[3] His position has been characterized as involving a rigid distinction between the physical and the mental.[2]

The legitimacy of psychiatry is questioned by Szasz, who compares it to alchemy and astrology,[4] and argues that it offends the values of autonomy and liberty.[5] Szasz believes that the concept of mental illness is not only logically absurd but has harmful consequences: instead of treating cases of ethical or legal deviation as occasions when a person should be taught personal responsibility, attempts are made to "cure" the deviants, for example by giving them tranquilizers.[2] Psychotherapy is regarded by Szasz as useful not to help people recover from illnesses, but to help them "learn about themselves, others, and life."[3] Discussing Jean-Martin Charcot and hysteria, Szasz argues that hysteria is an emotional problem and that Charcot's patients were not really ill.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Mental_Illness#Summary


Mm, I remember someone who couldn't be bothered to put any effort into psychotherapy.


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Magical Realist - Sep 6, 2025

I never said psychotherapy doesn't work. I just said it wasn't for me. I had a great childhood and pretty awesome parents. Nothing to dredge up and get all dramatic about.


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Syne - Sep 6, 2025

(Sep 6, 2025 11:06 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I never said psychotherapy doesn't work. I just said it wasn't for me. I had a great childhood and pretty awesome parents. Nothing to dredge up and get all dramatic about.

Please.... eventually... learn to read.

I said "couldn't be bothered to put any effort into" not "doesn't work."


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Magical Realist - Sep 6, 2025

(Sep 6, 2025 11:30 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Sep 6, 2025 11:06 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I never said psychotherapy doesn't work. I just said it wasn't for me. I had a great childhood and pretty awesome parents. Nothing to dredge up and get all dramatic about.

Please.... eventually... learn to read.

I said "couldn't be bothered to put any effort into" not "doesn't work."

I just told you that psychotherapy wasn't for me, which of course means I wouldn't put any effort into it. Why would I waste my time doing that?

Get off my ass. Nobody here is interested in your pretty off topic personal attacks on me.


RE: 7 books philosophers don't want you to read - Syne - Sep 7, 2025

(Sep 6, 2025 11:35 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Sep 6, 2025 11:30 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Sep 6, 2025 11:06 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I never said psychotherapy doesn't work. I just said it wasn't for me. I had a great childhood and pretty awesome parents. Nothing to dredge up and get all dramatic about.

Please.... eventually... learn to read.

I said "couldn't be bothered to put any effort into" not "doesn't work."

I just told you that psychotherapy wasn't for me, which of course means I wouldn't put any effort into it. Why would I waste my time doing that?

Get off my ass. Nobody here is interested in your pretty off topic personal attacks on me.

You're the one being petty, and with your own straw man at that.
You've just verified exactly what I said in this thread.