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The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - C C - Aug 27, 2025 Annunciation Catholic Church shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation_Catholic_Church_shooting - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Disturbing social media content of Minneapolis school shooter pointing to motive ... https://youtu.be/lCmXGMt1brc RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Yazata - Aug 28, 2025 Another M to "F" "transgender" youth with serious psychiatric problems. RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Magical Realist - Aug 28, 2025 Wonder how many CIS gendered male shooters there are? RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Syne - Aug 28, 2025 Wonder what the percentage of each population it is? RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - C C - Aug 28, 2025 If he never underwent a medical transition, then the later regret shouldn't have been as severe as with those who did. Easily remedied, compared to any others who go down that road of feeling that it was an error in judgment. - - - - - - - - - - UNDERCURRENTS https://youtu.be/7hsx-Iai3kc VIDEO EXCERPTS: Westman applied to change his birth name from Robert to Robin in Dakota County, Minnesota when he was 17 years old. According to court documents, that name change was granted in January 2020. The petition added that Westman quote "identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification". In a manifesto that was posted on YouTube by Westman, before the shooting, you can see Westman writing out, "I don't want to dress girly all the time, but I guess sometimes I really like it. I know I am not a woman, but I definitely don't feel like a man." And then also the quote: "I wish I never brainwashed myself. I only kept the long hair because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans. I wish I never brainwashed myself." [...] So this is I would say is a clear cut case of gender dysphoria. Did Westman medically transition? It doesn't appear to be the case at this point. [...] Westman's politics were completely all over the map in the video. They're absolutely wild. Shows a picture of Jesus Christ at the head of a [gun] target at one point. [...] There's some stuff on it about Israel. It's just a complete mess of different messages. Names of other mass shooters written on the gun. [...] it's a really sad video to watch. Someone that clearly needed help... Minneapolis school shooting exposes glaring media hypocrisy ... https://youtu.be/7hsx-Iai3kc RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Magical Realist - Aug 29, 2025 ![]() RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Syne - Aug 29, 2025 So you're going to mock thought and prayers for victims who were literally praying. Apparently you don't understand how that also mocks the victims... or maybe that's your intent. RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Yazata - Aug 29, 2025 One of the problems with atheists is that they imagine prayer as if it was magic. Prayer as they conceive it is supposed to bring about physical/tangible results so as to make action unnecessary. In real life, I don't think that a vast majority of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus or Buddhists (who might call prayer 'meditation' or 'mindfulness') think that prayer replaces physical action. Maybe a few do, but most don't resemble the atheist caricature at all. I think that prayer is more about coming to terms with things emotionally. RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Syne - Aug 29, 2025 At least for most Christians, prayer is more akin to the AA serenity prayer. Unless you believe in prosperity gospel (name it and claim it), prayer is about asking for strength, wisdom, etc. to accomplish or deal with something yourself or asking to similarly bolster someone else. Most Christians believe that you have to, at least, meet God halfway, with your own effort. This notion that "thoughts and prayers" are opposed to "doing something" is a false dichotomy... where most rational people realize that you can hold more than one thought at the same time. In this case, they asked governor Tim Walz for state funding to help protect Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. private/independent schools, only a few weeks after the Covenant School shooting (also by a transgender). In a resurfaced letter to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the head of the Minnesota Catholic Conference expressed that Catholic and other nonpublic schools were in "urgent and critical need" of security improvements, saying, "Our schools are under attack." RE: The Minneapolis church/school shooter? - Magical Realist - Aug 29, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AHfgzAgjJzQ In this context the thoughts and prayers cliche has become synonymous with legislative inaction. The consistent refusal to ban assault weapons or require background checks. That's what the point of the joke is. And that will always be its point until some sort of gun control legislative action is taken. |