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Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Magical Realist - Aug 31, 2024
Wow.. this got heated real fast. And then there was a threat! I recall Ben being threatened on stage by another transgender woman once. He really should update his pronouns so he doesn't get a high heel in the balls.. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgQy70_LPS4&t=12s
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Syne - Aug 31, 2024
You really do live under a rock, huh? That was years ago.
No real woman would threaten a man like that, which only demonstrates the lie of transgender ideology.
But no surprise that you condone threats of violence, so long as it's from/to people you approve of.
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Magical Realist - Aug 31, 2024
Quote:You really do live under a rock, huh? That was years ago.
9 years to be exact. So what? He still preaches the same transphobic bullshit..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gh5pNg3NOw
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Syne - Aug 31, 2024
Well, I guess you're anti-science then. Again, no surprise.
I notice how you didn't even try to justify your condoning violence.
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Magical Realist - Sep 1, 2024
(Aug 31, 2024 11:48 PM)Syne Wrote: Well, I guess you're anti-science then. Again, no surprise.
I notice how you didn't even try to justify your condoning violence.
I didn't see any violence. And Shapiro's views aren't supported by science either.
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Syne - Sep 1, 2024
Sorry, you condoning threats of violence, which is still a crime.
Yes, male and female are scientific terms that are universal to most species in the world. And there is no way, scientifically, to make one into the other.
That's just the delusions of the insane and the perverse. No surprise you can relate. Is one of your voices trrans?
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Magical Realist - Sep 1, 2024
This statement was put out by a committee convened by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2001, which is now embedded within the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM). It is provided here with commentary by The Yale School of Medicine website. I guess you and Shapiro didn't get the memo????
"What do we mean by sex and gender? Aren’t these terms interchangeable? Perhaps at some point in time they were used as synonyms, but this is no longer true in science.
In 2001, a committee convened by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), a nonprofit think tank that took on issues of importance to the national health, addressed the question of whether it mattered to study the biology of women as well as men.
The IOM, now embedded within the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM), concluded there was more than sufficient evidence that, beyond reproductive biology, there were major differences in the biology of women and men that greatly affected their health and influenced treatment and prevention strategies.
Importantly, the committee emphasized that neither the health of women nor men is simply a product of biology but is also influenced by sociocultural and psychological experience. To differentiate between these broad areas of investigation, the members created working definitions of “sex” — when referring to biology — and “gender” — when referring to self-representation influenced by social, cultural, and personal experience.
The committee advised that scientists use these definitions in the following ways:
1) In the study of human subjects, the term sex should be used as a classification, generally as male or female, according to the reproductive organs and functions that derive from the chromosomal complement [generally XX for female and XY for male].
2) In the study of human subjects, the term gender should be used to refer to a person's self-representation as male or female, or how that person is responded to by social institutions on the basis of the individual's gender presentation.
3) In most studies of nonhuman animals, the term sex should be used.
These working definitions were a good start in recognizing the value of studying sex and gender and their interactions, yet they were always meant to evolve. Now, we are learning more about ourselves and so must adapt our terminology to be inclusive, respectful, and more accurate.
For example, while most people are born biologically female or male, rare biological syndromes can result in genital ambiguity. Or a resistance to a sex hormone can result in traits typical of the opposite biological sex.
Moreover, while an individual’s internal sense of gender can be female or male, some people identify as nonbinary — neither female nor male. Other individuals can identify as a gender that is the same as (cisgender) or different from (transgender) the one assigned at birth. These terms are separate from an individual’s sexual orientation, which describes a person’s emotional, romantic and/or physical attachments (such as straight, lesbian, gay, asexual, bisexual, and more).
In science, as our understanding grows, so must the precision of our language in communicating what we know."
https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Syne - Sep 1, 2024
That's just when they started pandering to the insane. They literally say they're taking into account "sociocultural and psychological experience." Where a person's "psychological experience" opposes reality, we call that insanity. And there's a diagnosis for it... gender dysphoria.
Even just at a very basic level, biology is objective, sociocultural and psychological experience is definitionally subjective.
Empirical science deals with the objective. Only the social (soft) sciences deal with the subjective. You can conflate them all you like, but it doesn't change the objective facts.
Now carry on whining about how some people don't pander to your insanity.
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Zinjanthropos - Sep 1, 2024
(Sep 1, 2024 06:45 AM)Syne Wrote: That's just when they started pandering to the insane. They literally say they're taking into account "sociocultural and psychological experience." Where a person's "psychological experience" opposes reality, we call that insanity. And there's a diagnosis for it... gender dysphoria.
Even just at a very basic level, biology is objective, sociocultural and psychological experience is definitionally subjective.
Empirical science deals with the objective. Only the social (soft) sciences deal with the subjective. You can conflate them all you like, but it doesn't change the objective facts.
Now carry on whining about how some people don't pander to your insanity.
That’s a good rebuttal. Setting yourself up for another “you’re homophobic or transphobic calling out”? lol When I see those labels I think of desperation wokeness. Standard accusations when confronted with facts that don’t agree with the woke stance. Yep, woke is all about feelings, not facts.
RE: Ben Shapiro proves how out of touch he is on transgenderism - Syne - Sep 1, 2024
(Sep 1, 2024 05:53 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(Sep 1, 2024 06:45 AM)Syne Wrote: That's just when they started pandering to the insane. They literally say they're taking into account "sociocultural and psychological experience." Where a person's "psychological experience" opposes reality, we call that insanity. And there's a diagnosis for it... gender dysphoria.
Even just at a very basic level, biology is objective, sociocultural and psychological experience is definitionally subjective.
Empirical science deals with the objective. Only the social (soft) sciences deal with the subjective. You can conflate them all you like, but it doesn't change the objective facts.
Now carry on whining about how some people don't pander to your insanity.
That’s a good rebuttal. Setting yourself up for another “you’re homophobic or transphobic calling out”? lol When I see those labels I think of desperation wokeness. Standard accusations when confronted with facts that don’t agree with the woke stance. Yep, woke is all about feelings, not facts.
Yeah, I assume the whining about people not pandering to insanity would take the form of "transphobic."
The problem is that the left has now used racist, homophobe, transphobe, etc. so much and so universally against only one political side that it's obviously just a desperate defense mechanism. These leftist ad homs have no power any more. You'd think they would eventually learn that... and come up with new material. Maybe they don't realize how transparent they are.