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UK: Out of ammunition & equipment in 2 months if war with Russia? (logistics games) - C C - Mar 27, 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13242949/The-UK-run-ammunition-equipment-two-months-war-against-Putins-Russia-defence-chief-admits.html
INTRO: The UK would run out of ammunition and equipment in less than two months in a war against Putin's Russia, a defence chief has admitted.
Tory defence committee member Mark Francois said: 'We couldn't fight (Vladimir) Putin for more than a couple of months in a full-on shooting war because we don't have the ammunition and the reserves of equipment to do it, that's true isn't it?'
The deputy chief of defence staff, Lt Gen Sir Rob Macgowan, acknowledged that was true, although Mr Shapps pointed out that any such conflict would be fought alongside NATO allies who could collectively outgun Russia, rather than by the UK alone.
Mr Shapps said: 'For people watching, and hearing that the UK isn't ready for war exclusively with Russia, it's important to understand that because we are in Nato and (mutual defence agreement) Article 5 exists, we would never be in that situation.'
Defence spending is expected to be around 2.3 per cent of GDP next year, but will only reach 2.5 per cent 'when the conditions allow', Mr Sunak told the Liaison Committee... (MORE - details)
RE: UK: Out of ammunition & equipment in 2 months if war with Russia? (logistics games) - stryder - Mar 27, 2024
32 Member countries, if putting in an average of 2.5% of their GDP's equals 80%+ of a country with a mean value of one of NATO's countries.
In other words NATO internally within it's members has a 33 Country on the grassy knoll. That has near enough it's whole GDP (since it only exists for that purpose) for R&D, logistics, hiring manpower, training and fighting when necessary.
That of course is why though Russia is scared of NATO and why there is always concerns about attempts to try to string NATO into multiple conflicts to keep them spread thinly.