(Feb 20, 2024 03:30 PM)confused2 Wrote: Assuming you're in child bearing mode..
If you could give birth to a child that would be cleverer than you, never suffer any pain and live for ever.. would you want that child?
I'm thinking of an AI and I'm also thinking you probably wouldn't want it.
Whatever you think an AI can't do .. replace with "an AI can't yet do" ..

Z. Wrote:..If AI is a conscious entity in itself then I assume it will or can take care of its own survival adaptations. Consciousness also may play no favourites, to exist in this universe anyway it can. Machine or organic, whatever works.

(Feb 20, 2024 01:29 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Not so much as it pertains to physical changes but what follows the consciousness adaptation?

[...] https://www.whatisemerging.com/opinions/conscious-evolution

Excerpt:  The ability to look forward and evolve consciously comes at the exact moment it becomes necessary for our survival. 

[...] Unfortunately it seems like we need to kill each other first. Would be interesting if that next conscious level requires some violence if only to shatter some beliefs. If we are to consciously take the next step, peace may be high on the priority list. [...]

Another excerpt: "In this context I would like to make an evolutionary case for spiritual practice. At its heart spirituality is about making ourselves adaptable. Rather than being unconscious slaves to maladaptive drives, spirituality creates an awareness around our choices. It fosters the compassion needed to move beyond tribalism. And it makes us less attached to our beliefs: we feel less rattled when they are challenged and are better able to learn from others."

1984 (Orwell): [...]  'Can you not understand that the death of the individual is not death? The party is immortal.'

As usual, the voice had battered Winston into helplessness. [...] 'I don't know -- I don't care. Somehow you will fail. Something will defeat you. Life will defeat you.'

'We control life, Winston, at all its levels. [...] we create human nature. Men are infinitely malleable...'

[...] O'Brien smiled faintly. 'You are no metaphysician, Winston,' he said. 'Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely, in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?'

'No.'

'Then where does the past exist, if at all?'

'In records. It is written down. [...and..] In the mind. In human memories.'

'In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?'

'But how can you stop people remembering things?' cried Winston again momentarily forgetting the dial...

[...] 'But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party...'