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Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - C C - Nov 30, 2023
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SURVIVAL LILIY
https://youtu.be/5CNli3UekTk
VIDEO INTRO: Today I want to report to you a very important and also very concerning message that I've gotten from one of my viewers. He responded with this message to my last video, which was about the digital IDs. So now let's dive right into this message...
[...] I work in the IT department of a very large renowned insurance company headquartered in Germany. Unfortunately, what I tell my circle of friends and relatives about my projects they dismiss as conspiracy theory. Many people don't see or understand what will happen to us with this great digitalization revolution, especially the possible dangers and misuse. Here's a small excerpt of the pilot projects we are working on...
Very concerning message!
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Zinjanthropos - Dec 1, 2023
Get the feeling Lilly has had a few traffic violations and accidents. Lilly needs to relax.
I would think the car companies better get it right before people get comfy with autopilot. EV manufacturers going to need politicians in their back pocket to avoid lawsuits. If these autonomous cars are so good at avoiding accidents then why are bad driving habits even a concern?
Should you get a pat on the back for letting car drive you home when incapacitated or do we still take his/her keys away and sue the bartender if something happens?
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Kornee - Dec 1, 2023
(Nov 30, 2023 11:02 PM)C C Wrote: SURVIVAL LILIYFor the most part right on Lilly. Except you forgot to add 'Brave New World' to '1984' - it's a combo thing shaping up.
https://youtu.be/5CNli3UekTk
VIDEO INTRO: Today I want to report to you a very important and also very concerning message that I've gotten from one of my viewers. He responded with this message to my last video, which was about the digital IDs. So now let's dive right into this message...
[...] I work in the IT department of a very large renowned insurance company headquartered in Germany. Unfortunately, what I tell my circle of friends and relatives about my projects they dismiss as conspiracy theory. Many people don't see or understand what will happen to us with this great digitalization revolution, especially the possible dangers and misuse. Here's a small excerpt of the pilot projects we are working on...
Very concerning message!
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/5CNli3UekTk
And if that omni-surveillance/behavior-control plan was the worst of it one could almost be laughing. A few aspects are actually good - e.g. drunk-driving eliminated.
Unfortunately that Digital/AI Nanny-state future is far from the worst of what is underway and slated for our Terminator: Dark Fate.
(yeah I think the title of that 2019 installment was intentionally chosen as dark premonition for European/European-heritage peoples/civilization in general).
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Zinjanthropos - Dec 1, 2023
You would think that survival also includes getting home in your car in one piece. Legislation that permits Insurance Companies to monitor your driving habits and adjust premiums accordingly might save more lives than gun control. Too bad guns don't have a similar safeguard, might save a few road signs and road rage victims from bullet holes.
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - stryder - Dec 1, 2023
In regards to cars and digital blackboxes
A number of different companies and countries have taken varying approaches to dealing with not just autonomy but working out ways to make roads safer. While some companies look at dumping a brain into a car and letting it navigate the road, others look at approaches such as networking road furnishings or even interconnecting other cars on the road into a mesh network.
The latter would require ALL cars to have a digital blackbox that would identify the position of the vehicle as well as deep learning the car drivers habits (although multiple users cars would require profiles). This would aid the hybrid world of automated drives making decisions at junctions as they will know how likely a person is to be paying attention, slowing down or whether they are an accident waiting to happen.
Such boxes would also send out collected metrics for not just insurance companies for a persons driving, but also for local municipalities to identify defects in their roads or issues with their road crossings etc.
Ideally in automated cars a digital blackbox should also be an auxiliary brain (at a government funded level) that can decide if the brain that a companies has produced (or a user has tampered with) is functioning correctly. Such auxiliary would be used to safely bring a car to a halt in emergencies and accidents (although it *could* well be used to act a bit like a security device by disabling a vehicle that is flagged by law enforcement for any reason stopping vehicular thefts or people fleeing locations.)
In any event some will see such predications as Orwellian, stripping away their rights and/or freedoms. They should over consider that walking around with a smartphone in your pocket is already doing most of whats suggest for a car already. In some respects it's a proof of concept and you've already accepted them into your day to day lives (and probably naked without them).
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Kornee - Dec 2, 2023
The real danger is one of curtailment of personal liberty. One's ability to function at all can be snuffed out comprehensively based on arbitrary, draconian political mandates labeling 'nonconformists' as 'dangers to society'. Yes 1984 and all that is looming. The infrastructure to enable it is one important leg of the overall picture of a mind controlled docile populace.
'Western democracy' pundits pointing the finger at China for it's facial recognition social credit score society need to recall that means three fingers are pointing back.
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Zinjanthropos - Dec 2, 2023
After reading this article one might wonder why an insurance company would cover an autonomous vehicle at all if AI was driving it. There’s a bit of AI in all EV’s.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/self-driving-cars-2662494269
RE: Very concerning message from viewer (Survival Lilly) - Kornee - Dec 2, 2023
Early teething troubles with AI navigation are just that. In short order expect reliably beyond human level performance. And, even now....
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/onboard-ai-beats-human-pilot-dogfight
Again - the real rapidly advancing danger is ability of TPTB to have total surveillance coupled with total ability to cripple anyone's life if deemed 'noncompliant' with imposed political/ideological 'norms'.
Deflecting from that matter which is what imo the OP was really on about is lame.