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LGBT representation - Syne - Feb 6, 2023
Is this a good representation of the LGBT community?
RE: LGBT representation - C C - Feb 6, 2023
Assuming that most of the guys in the following video are straight, use binary pronouns, are cisgender, etc... Then Sam Smith's "INHTMF" is probably as representative of restrained, modest, or square LGBT+ people as the following heavy metal "performances" are representative of the average citizen: "Many metal acts have been wrongly labeled as Satanic, but these 10 acts are legitimate Satanists".
I mean, the entertainment industry is often doing something over the top, no matter what individual or group is the centerpiece. Which includes self-parodying. (As a drag queen, RuPaul may have been doing the latter much of his life to some degree or another.)
Now... granted, back in the old days -- from a political standpoint, something like INHTME might have sent shivers down the spines of crusader movements when they were fighting against stereotypes and struggling for various rights.
But today... it apparently doesn't matter anymore, as long as LGBT+ members themselves are the players in _X_ or there is an LGBT+ member/authority overseeing or approving what's going on.
I say that based on "nobody" seeming to complain about the eleventh season of AHS titled "American Horror Story: NYC, with regard to its no holds barred depiction of 1980s gay lifestyle in that city.
I recall an opinion piece a few years back from a crusader veteran with a chip on his shoulder, complaining about how "for the sake of the cause" he and his contemporaries had to present themselves as being strictly same-sex attracted, no blurry deviations after exiting the closet. But now the new kids on the block have the freedom to present themselves as fluid or bouncing all over the spectrum in terms of trying on new hats in the course of a lifetime.
He directly or indirectly hinted that a lot of those bygone facades, pretenses, and precautions of the past supposedly don't matter anymore. Although, again, that was just the personal observation/opinion of an old-timer from that era expressing dismay about the attitudes of the current one. But judging from some TV shows, films, videos, etc... he might be right that things are more relaxed now in terms of either publicly "being who you are, warts (or bizarreness) and all" and engaging in humorous self-caricature. (Entertainers from the 1960s on, regardless, have always gotten away with extremes.)
RE: LGBT representation - Zinjanthropos - Feb 6, 2023
https://dancemadeincanada.ca/podcast/kyle-miller-vanity-a-la-mode-manager-of-philanthropy-drag-queen/
Dropped my iPad and now no sound so I can’t comment on what’s being vocalized. However if the video star is Satan then perhaps my link shows the other side.
This guy was our neighbor when he was growing up. He made no bones about becoming a Drag Queen during that time. Is still a very good friend of my daughters. Won’t meet a nicer guy. He’s done so much for the gay community and the performing arts. Saw him couple years ago and we shared a few laughs. I think he’s more of a performer than cross dresser and when I see a drag Queen in the news I always think about show biz and Kyle.
The dude in the video reminded me of the late James Brown with the robe shtick. Five o’clock shadow and such was a nice touch, necessary distractions because he makes an ugly woman with or without some attention to the face. From a guy’s perspective he’s hard to look at but if controversial works then go for it.
RE: LGBT representation - Syne - Feb 7, 2023
I was hoping MR, RU, or someone from that community would chime in.
RE: LGBT representation - Magical Realist - Feb 7, 2023
Nothing wrong with musical artists pushing gender boundaries. I believe David Bowie and the glam rock movement was one of the first to experiment with that. If it "represents" anything, it's that personal identity can transcend the stereotypes our society projects upon us. A familiar theme for LGBTQ and a rebellious one suitable for rock and roll.
RE: LGBT representation - Syne - Feb 8, 2023
I figured as much.