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It's time for the scientific community to admit we were wrong about COVID - C C - Feb 1, 2023
https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-scientific-community-admit-we-were-wrong-about-coivd-it-cost-lives-opinion-1776630
INTRO: As a medical student and researcher, I staunchly supported the efforts of the public health authorities when it came to COVID-19. I believed that the authorities responded to the largest public health crisis of our lives with compassion, diligence, and scientific expertise. I was with them when they called for lockdowns, vaccines, and boosters.
I was wrong. We in the scientific community were wrong. And it cost lives.
I can see now that the scientific community from the CDC to the WHO to the FDA and their representatives, repeatedly overstated the evidence and misled the public about its own views and policies, including on natural vs. artificial immunity, school closures and disease transmission, aerosol spread, mask mandates, and vaccine effectiveness and safety, especially among the young. All of these were scientific mistakes at the time, not in hindsight. Amazingly, some of these obfuscations continue to the present day.
But perhaps more important than any individual error was how inherently flawed the overall approach of the scientific community was, and continues to be. It was flawed in a way that undermined its efficacy and resulted in thousands if not millions of preventable deaths.
What we did not properly appreciate is that preferences determine how scientific expertise is used, and that our preferences might be—indeed, our preferences were—very different from many of the people that we serve. We created policy based on our preferences, then justified it using data. And then we portrayed those opposing our efforts as misguided, ignorant, selfish, and evil.
We made science a team sport, and in so doing, we made it no longer science. It became us versus them, and "they" responded the only way anyone might expect them to: by resisting... (MORE - details)
RE: It's time for the scientific community to admit we were wrong about COVID - RainbowUnicorn - Feb 1, 2023
that's American culture
The American anti-science & anti-government groups are considerably large and well funded through churches and far right organizations including think tanks.
RE: It's time for the scientific community to admit we were wrong about COVID - Zinjanthropos - Feb 1, 2023
Because the injections didn’t make anyone immune from Covid mean they shouldn’t count as a vaccination?
The injections from list below are not vaxxes, technically speaking?
Mandatory immunizations required to attend school in Ontario
diphtheria.
tetanus.
pertussis (whooping cough)
polio.
measles.
mumps.
rubella.
meningococcal disease (Men-C-C for children under 12 years old)
RE: It's time for the scientific community to admit we were wrong about COVID - confused2 - Feb 2, 2023
Quote:Between 1 December and 31 December 2021, 124 patients with Covid-19 were admitted to intensive care units (ICU) across north east London (NEL). Of these, 80.6% (100) were not fully vaccinated (with 2 doses).
https://northeastlondon.icb.nhs.uk/news/almost-90-of-patients-admitted-to-intensive-care-units-in-north-east-london-are-not-fully-vaccinated/
Is the US radically different? Have US intensive care units been full of people struck down by vaccinations? What?