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Magical Realist
Oct 5, 2017 08:38 PM
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Quote:You didn't answer the question
Oh fuck'n well..
Quote:Again, who said the meds were causative?
The article did you moron..
"The news emerged after actress and Scientologist Kirstie Alley put out a series of tweets claiming a common denominator in mass killings - aside from guns - are psychiatric drugs.
'We have to solve the mystery of why there were no 'shooters' or almost 0 before the 1980's. I know one common denominator other than guns,' Alley tweeted Monday.
'One additional common denominator of 'shooters' is USA's mass usage of psychiatric drugs. A % do have side effects of VIOLENCE & SUICIDE,' continued the outspoken actress."
Quote:Sure, because no one collects guns except for mass murders
Automatic weapons with bump stocks and armor piercing bullects? Right..he's just hunting quail..lol!
Quote:I get that it comforts you to just label it "psychotic asshole".
A little too defensive of "psychotic assholes" aren't ya? Striking abit too close to home?
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Syne
Oct 6, 2017 12:13 AM
(Oct 5, 2017 08:38 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:You didn't answer the question
Oh fuck'n well.. He says about his own intellectual honesty.
Quote:Quote:Again, who said the meds were causative?
The article did you moron..
"The news emerged after actress and Scientologist Kirstie Alley put out a series of tweets claiming a common denominator in mass killings - aside from guns - are psychiatric drugs.
'We have to solve the mystery of why there were no 'shooters' or almost 0 before the 1980's. I know one common denominator other than guns,' Alley tweeted Monday.
'One additional common denominator of 'shooters' is USA's mass usage of psychiatric drugs. A % do have side effects of VIOLENCE & SUICIDE,' continued the outspoken actress."
He says with an ad hominem (which he'll hypocritically cry foul about the second you use one) even though no one in this discussion has defended that PART of the article.
Quote:Quote:Sure, because no one collects guns except for mass murders
Automatic weapons with bump stocks and armor piercing bullects? Right..he's just hunting quail..lol!
Cite your source about armor-piercing ammo.
And neither of these are automatic weapons:
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ddPTyoV-Irc
So cite your source that he actually had automatic weapons.
Or are you just talking out of your firearms illiterate ass? O_o
Quote:Quote:I get that it comforts you to just label it "psychotic asshole".
A little too defensive of "psychotic assholes" aren't ya? Striking abit too close to home?
Nope. Just defensive of waiting for verifiable facts before jumping to emotionally comforting conclusions.
And it's sad that you're trying to turn my words against me only to continue avoiding the evermore certain guess that you take anti-anxiety meds.
I'm starting to be glad you are firearms illiterate. That way if you happen to suffer from any of the worst side-effects, we can rest assured you could only ever throw a temper tantrum rather than bullets.
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Secular Sanity
Oct 6, 2017 12:24 AM
(Oct 6, 2017 12:13 AM)Syne Wrote: Just defensive of waiting for verifiable facts before jumping to emotionally comforting conclusions.
Now, that is funny.
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Magical Realist
Oct 6, 2017 12:33 AM
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Quote:So cite your source that he actually had automatic weapons.
A bump stock turns your semi-automatic gun into one that fires like an automatic gun. Educate yourself..
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017...s-gun.html
I take back the armor piercing bullets. But he did have special bullets that could penetrate better. I can't remember the name.
Quote:I'm starting to be glad you are firearms illiterate
Oh woah is me. I don't know all about weapons designed to kill. Let's see. I'm also lacking in knowledge of effective poisoning methods, how to knife someone for greatest effect, explosives detonation, and how to efficiently kill someone with a garrote. I feel so inferior! lol!
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Syne
Oct 6, 2017 02:12 AM
(Oct 6, 2017 12:24 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Oct 6, 2017 12:13 AM)Syne Wrote: Just defensive of waiting for verifiable facts before jumping to emotionally comforting conclusions.
Now, that is funny. Only because you think people are only religious to comfort themselves.
But even if you view the evolutionary development of religion as a by-product, it's a by-product that reinforces the cooperation that led us to modern times. IOW, it has a purpose beyond comfort. And I've yet to see evidence claiming to show religion is primarily espoused for comfort.
BTW, are you going to post anything on-topic or just here to troll? O_o
(Oct 6, 2017 12:33 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:So cite your source that he actually had automatic weapons.
A bump stock turns your semi-automatic gun into one that fires like an automatic gun. Educate yourself..
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017...s-gun.html
Yeah, "fires like an automatic" is not an automatic. But I don't expect you to know the difference. I'm well aware of what a bump stock is, as the video I posted shows, so don't even try to act like you know crap about guns.
Quote:I take back the armor piercing bullets. But he did have special bullets that could penetrate better. I can't remember the name.
The Obama admin tried to arbitrarily reclassify, and ban, green tip ammo as armor-piercing. It's not especially more effective. It's the training round of the US military, so there's a lot of cheap surplus green tip ammo.
Quote:Quote:I'm starting to be glad you are firearms illiterate
Oh woah is me. I don't know all about weapons designed to kill.
Maybe you'll remember that next time you start acting like you do.
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Magical Realist
Oct 6, 2017 02:18 AM
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Quote:Maybe you'll remember that next time you start acting like you do.
When the day comes that I'm tempted to act like a gun nut, I'll keep that in mind. But hell has a better chance of freezing over before then.
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Syne
Oct 6, 2017 03:12 AM
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(Oct 6, 2017 02:18 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Maybe you'll remember that next time you start acting like you do.
When the day comes that I'm tempted to act like a gun nut, I'll keep that in mind. But hell has a better chance of freezing over before then.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to easy your embarrassment over trying to educate someone who knows firearms from you complete dearth of such knowledge. That's like me trying to educate you on what gay men like. I have no clue, and I'd be a moron if I tried.
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Magical Realist
Oct 6, 2017 03:28 AM
Quote:Whatever you need to tell yourself to easy your embarrassment over trying to educate someone who knows firearms from you complete dearth of such knowledge.
LOL! And on that embarrassing note of complete jibberish, I move on to bigger and better things.
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Syne
Oct 6, 2017 04:10 AM
Can't parse simple English? Why am I not surprised?
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Secular Sanity
Oct 6, 2017 06:57 PM
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(Oct 6, 2017 02:12 AM)Syne Wrote: Only because you think people are only religious to comfort themselves.
But even if you view the evolutionary development of religion as a by-product, it's a by-product that reinforces the cooperation that led us to modern times. IOW, it has a purpose beyond comfort. And I've yet to see evidence claiming to show religion is primarily espoused for comfort.
Well, Syne, God is similar to the elf on the shelf concept, right? My poor little nieces are subjected to this elf thingy, year after year. I feel bad for them. It's lazy parenting.
Someone is always watching and you are responsible for the outcome. If you are good, you will reap the benefits, if you are bad, bad things will happen to you. Is that how the world really works? Is it, Syne? When something bad happens to them, something that they have no control over, and what then?
Take this incident for example. Should the victims blame themselves to minimize the harsh reality of the meaningless nature of this incident? Did they do something wrong? Could they have avoided it? What role did their choice play in this outcome? Those are some of the questions that the public (the real watchers and judges) are wondering, right? Before we show mercy or wrath, that’s exactly what we try to determine. Are they worthy of our empathy? Am I right?
Freewill or determinism? That is the question. We approach this question through constraints and those constraints are never black and white. The level of constraints range from minor to severe. What was his motive? Was he abused as a child? Was it a side effect from a prescribed medication? Was he of sound mind? In other words, how much free choice is required for a person to be held responsible for his or her actions?
God may stem from our imagination, but I don’t think that our cooperation is a by-product of the conception of god. Cooperation may be a by-product of empathy. Empathy stems from our imagination, as well, our moral imagination. We imagine stepping into another person’s shoes. Our communities, our states, our nations are all by-products of our imagination stemming from empathy, not god. We not only live in imagined communities, but with the increase in technology, we live in virtual communities, as well.
I’m not attacking you, I’m simply curious as to why you keep making fun of MR from being gay, and as to why you felt the need to insert your opinion on this horrific event. Are you empathizing with the victims? If so, did you know any of the victims personally? If not, why would these strangers elicit empathy from you, but not strangers on the internet that you interact with almost daily? Empathy can be hijacked for political and ideological purposes, you know. What if it was an LGBT event?
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