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Scientology Goes After Planters Icon Mr. Peanut For Critiquing Its Super Bowl Ad
https://www.dailywire.com/news/43096/sci...ly-zanotti

EXCERPT: This year's Super Bowl left something to be desired and the commercials were no exception. But when the well-known legume decided to become a Twitter critic of the Church of Scientology's creepy 30-second spot on Sunday, he found himself in more trouble than he anticipated. Planters had its own commercial featuring Alex Rodriguez and Charlie Sheen, but the company's spokes-peanut also appeared on Twitter, and when Scientology aired its ad, Mr. Peanut responded directly.

Watching the @Scientology ad like... pic.twitter.com/iCnkfmTS8l
— Mr. Peanut (@MrPeanut) February 4, 2019

Scientology doesn't take kindly to critics, and social media users were quick to point out in their responses to the tweet that Mr. Peanut better watch his back — and probably his front lawn, as Scientology is known to dispatch private investigators to hunt down dirt on detractors, whom they label as SPs or "suppressive persons" (or, in this case, "suppressive peanut"), in a process known to Scientologists as "Fair Game."

[...] Honestly, the idea of "Fair Game-ing" a cartoon peanut sounds farfetched, right. It turns out, it wasn't far off the mark. Within minutes of Planters' tweet, prominent Scientologists, including some heavily involved in the Church's "Stand League," which operates as something of a "digital rapid response" operation, were tweeting that Planters was exhibiting "anti-religious bigotry."

MORE: https://www.dailywire.com/news/43096/sci...ly-zanotti

RELATED: Scientology Front Groups



What Drives the Flat-Earthers?
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde...-earthers/

EXCERPT: I am still stunned that there are seemingly average people walking around today with the firm belief that the world is actually flat. The numbers, while still small, are also surprisingly high. In a recent survey only 84% of those surveyed were confident that the Earth is “round”. The rest expressed some doubt, were confident the Earth is flat, or were unsure. For those 18-24 only 66% were confident the world is round. (The survey was presented as a dichotomy between round and flat – it’s hard to say if this had any effect on the responses, but we’ll put that aside.) Belief in a flat Earth correlated with being young, religious, and poor.

Wrapping your head around this fact, for anyone with a modicum of scientific literacy and general sense, is not easy. But I am trying not to settle for any simplistic explanation of this phenomenon. Certainly any fringe movement like this is going to attract those with mental illness or an otherwise tenuous grip on reality. It also attracts dedicated conspiracy theorists. There are also the Sherri Shepherds of the world who simply can’t be bothered to clutter their mind with extraneous facts, such as the shape of the world on which they live.

But there seems to be still more going on, especially with the recent increase in this phenomenon. [....] When confronted with direct evidence that they are profoundly wrong, they typically give a handwaving explanation such as, “It’s an optical illusion.” They can’t really explain what they mean by that, or they try and hopelessly fail, but that is apparently good enough for them. ... There is an intimate relationship between belief in a flat earth and conspiracy thinking. It seems that some flat-earthers start out as dedicated conspiracy theorists first, and for them the flat earth is the ultimate conspiracy....

[...] A recent documentary video by The Guardian takes a look at a subset of flat Earth believers – those who are activists. ... One ... feature that comes to the fore is that the activists were often confronted by some mid-life type crisis. ... It seems clear that for them the flat Earth movement is a profound source of meaning, identity, and purpose. They are now part of a small fringe group, misunderstood and ridiculed, but ... seem proud to be in front of the cameras, but they are just immortalizing their own pathology.

It’s also pretty clear from listening to them that they have fallen victim to confirmation bias. [...] For that reason it is probably also near-impossible to get through to someone once they are a dedicated flat-earther. The self-deception is constructed to immunize itself from refutation – that is part of the same process that gets them into the belief in the first place. At that point it is a religious belief, a cult even. It is a lesson and cautionary tale in the frailty of human cognition and emotion....

MORE (details): https://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde...-earthers/
I was looking thru the youtube comments for that new Scientology commercial. It started out with negative comments like "Are they really claiming credit for Einstein and other great figures in history?" Then the scientologists evidently took over and every comment thereafter is glowing praise for it. They make me sick. They're like the Borg---thought-controlled ants all defending the hive mind.
While any negative response to Planters is silly, as there are people who react similarly to more mainstream religions, like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, the ad itself is innocuous, unless you read into it stuff that just ain't there.



The spot is called "Curiosity", and that's what it is saying drove many great figures in history...not Scientology itself.
But I get it, they have some weird beliefs. I don't know that they're any weirder than Mormons. But weird beliefs can scare people, so they project their fear onto innocuous things.

Meh. If it wasn't made by Scientology, it would just be an uplifting message.
My first reaction to seeing ad was to be reminded of Star Wars. According to first few seconds of commercial 'there is a force'  and of course I'll say it 'May the force be with you'. I suppose it's the same force that drives Scientologists, Mr. Peanut and ad agencies.
(Feb 7, 2019 06:09 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I was looking thru the youtube comments for that new Scientology commercial. It started out with negative comments like "Are they really claiming credit for Einstein and other great figures in history?" Then the scientologists evidently took over and every comment thereafter is glowing praise for it. They make me sick. They're like the Borg---thought-controlled ants all defending the hive mind.


What initially seems surprising at the end is that they overtly gave their television network the "scientology" label, despite their existing stratagem of operating under a variety of front groups. Till one realizes that identity obfuscation would be a fail anyway when the programming titles consist of things like "Meet A Scientologist, Voices for Humanity" and "L. Ron Hubbard: In His Own Voice". Also, the very start-up purpose is apparently to improve image or challenge the stereotype, outsider views of the religion.

To survive or profit, though, I expect the network is surely going to have to broaden from that function and develop in complexity over time. Once that finally happens, maybe it'll do a front-group switcheroo (thereby especially prompting a change of name). Not unlike the recent XFL(2020) sports enterprise in establishing a buffer between itself and the WWF via setting up the "Alpha Entertainment" company/organization. Trying to remedy the wrestling kinship which partially contributed to killing the original XFL as a joke back in 2001.

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(Feb 7, 2019 06:59 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]
(Feb 7, 2019 06:09 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I was looking thru the youtube comments for that new Scientology commercial. It started out with negative comments like "Are they really claiming credit for Einstein and other great figures in history?" Then the scientologists evidently took over and every comment thereafter is glowing praise for it. They make me sick. They're like the Borg---thought-controlled ants all defending the hive mind.


What initially seems surprising at the end is that they overtly gave their television network the "scientology" label, despite their existing stratagem of operating under a variety of front groups. Till one realizes that identity obfuscation would be a fail anyway when the programming titles consist of things like "Meet A Scientologist, Voices for Humanity" and "L. Ron Hubbard: In His Own Voice". Also, the very start-up purpose is apparently to improve image or challenge the stereotype, outsider views of the religion.

To survive or profit, though, I expect the network is surely going to have to broaden from that function and develop in complexity over time. Once that finally happens, maybe it'll do a front-group switcheroo (thereby especially prompting a change of name). Not unlike the recent XFL(2020) sports enterprise in establishing a buffer between itself and the WWF via setting up the "Alpha Entertainment" company/organization. Trying to remedy the wrestling kinship which partially contributed to killing the original XFL as a joke back in 2001.

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I would like to watch their network to see all the sleazy tactics they use to rope people into their sham religion. I watch Leah Remini's program on A&E and am well aware of the way they operate and all the hundreds of thousands they suck out of their members. Presenting themselves as some sort of viable self-help philosophy outside of the context of Ron L Hubbard would likely be one of their initial tricks. "Hey, don't you wanna be all you can be?" "Let us show you your true potential." Generic broadly appealing shit like that. Then they get you to one of their centers and start their looney auditing process with their electrical meters. Before you know it they are getting you to extend your credit limit on your credit cards and charging you tens of thousands for their courses and classes. "Be all that you can be!" Yeah, but you'll be flat broke in the end!
(Feb 7, 2019 09:13 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to watch their network to see all the sleazy tactics they use to rope people into their sham religion. I watch Leah Remini's program on A&E and am well aware of the way they operate and all the hundreds of thousands they suck out of their members. Presenting themselves as some sort of viable self-help philosophy outside of the context of Ron L Hubbard would likely be one of their initial tricks. "Hey, don't you wanna be all you can be?" "Let us show you your true potential." Generic broadly appealing shit like that. Then they get you to one of their centers and start their looney auditing process with their electrical meters. Before you know it they are getting you to extend your credit limit on your credit cards and charging you tens of thousands for their courses and classes. "Be all that you can be!" Yeah, but you'll be flat broke in the end!


Just imagine all the celebrities they can recruit to appear on programming. I assume this is just a sampling of the most well known, though many are probably getting long in the tooth. Less fresh blood would be a good sign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientolog...elebrities

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Ohhhh..Giovanni Ribisi!!? Beck!!? Juliet Lewis!!? Say it's not true! Sad
I knew about those...didn't know about Michael Pena or Laura Prepon.
(Feb 7, 2019 06:09 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I was looking thru the youtube comments for that new Scientology commercial. It started out with negative comments like "Are they really claiming credit for Einstein and other great figures in history?" Then the scientologists evidently took over and every comment thereafter is glowing praise for it. They make me sick. They're like the Borg---thought-controlled ants all defending the hive mind.

like the rich elite and politicians ?
like ad agencies ?
like big corporates ?
church groups ?
like fans ?

like all the self help pyramid people making up their own web sites with their pyramid buddies making false profiles and loading endless reviews etc ?
and featuring in their ads etc...
the behavior is not exclusive

build that wall of snack food mega church ... (current american beer drinking viewer mentality of prime discretionary spenders watching the super bowl)

(Feb 7, 2019 06:59 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]recent XFL(2020) sports enterprise in establishing a buffer between itself and the WWF via setting up the "Alpha Entertainment" company/organization. Trying to remedy the wrestling kinship which partially contributed to killing the original XFL as a joke back in 2001.

yes if its all about money.
keeping in mind the difference between religious research and artistic diversity.
the WWF brand is worth a shit load of money
many people want to chop off some of that and own it themselves.effectively steal some of the income.that is called capitalism. the main problem with stealing WWF income is that the fans are very loyal and also comprehend the idea of false drama as a metaphor of entertainment. so the dice is loaded against the ignorant card being played.

unlike real full contact combat regulated fights with betting;boxing, and all the other cage and ring fights...

people do not choose WWF to watch people fight for real.they choose WWF as a brand of entertainment which they also choose to be part of.
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