(Jan 22, 2019 11:58 PM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]Can someone explain to me how depriving the average government employee of their take-home pay is somehow supposed to make the left agree to pay for the wall? If anything, Trump will probably lose many votes of those who are struggling right now, and are pawns in his shut-down game. I'm not a leftist, I just don't see the mindset behind this.
More federal government workers are Democrats, as working for the government seems to be how those who believe in dependence nuzzle even closer to the government teat.
A recent analysis by the Washington Post suggests that in the 2018 election, federal employees did make significantly more donations to Democratic candidates than Republicans: Between 60 and 80 percent of donations went to Democrats. ... So Trump is almost certainly correct that his shutdown disproportionately affects Democrats, though perhaps less than he might believe.
- https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019...legal.html
So it's actually hurting more Democrat constituents, and they have their own Democrat politicians to blame. It's also about not rolling over like Republicans have been wont to do and why the last government shutdown accomplished nothing. You don't generally take a stand unless you're willing to see it through. Remember, Obama tried to make the last shutdown hurt more by closing open air memorials and public lands.
During the shutdown of 2013, the Obama Administration turned our public lands and war memorials into political weapons, denying veterans access to the very monuments built in their honor. We were there; we stepped in; we stopped it. In contrast, during the shutdown of 2018, the Trump Administration did its job and kept our public memorials open.
In 2013, what President Obama did was nothing short of a political stunt. To make our veterans feel the pain of the shutdown, he weaponized our public lands. He actually had park officials working overtime to erect barricades and stand guard to deny access to open air memorials, which were normally open 24/7. Worse still, he did this knowing that groups of WWII veterans were planning once in a lifetime visits to the memorial erected in honor of their fight for freedom.
- https://aclj.org/american-heritage/a-tal...-to-public
Did the Democrats denying government employees their pay and Obama barricading public areas help fund Obamacare? If so, there's your answer.
(Jan 23, 2019 12:27 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]The worst part of it is Trump is doing all this just to please his stupid xenophobic base which is only like 30% of Americans. They're the ones he got all hyped up about building a wall, announcing it at every campaign stop. He even lied that Mexico would pay for it. So now he has to make up some bullshit border crisis, even though border crossings are at their lowest in years, and he's holding 800,000 federal employees hostage to get his wall. Trump will go down as the worst president in U.S. history.
No, with Trump is likely more about appeasing his ego by accomplishing his campaign promise. For people who want the wall, especially those who live near the border, it is about security. And there is a crisis:
As the number of Central American women and girls crossing into the U.S. continues to spike, so is the staggering amount of sexual violence waged against these migrants who are in search of a better life.
According to a stunning Fusion investigation, 80 percent of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during their journey. That’s up from a previous estimate of 60 percent, according to an Amnesty International report.
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Through May, the number of unaccompanied girls younger than 18 caught at the US-Mexico border increased by 77 percent.
But while many of these girls are fleeing their homes because of fears of being sexually assaulted, according to the UNHCR, they are still meeting that same fate on their journey to freedom.
Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion. Sometimes sex is used as a form of payment, when women and girls don’t have money to pay bribes.
The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.
- https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1...06972.html
Or don't you think that is a humanitarian crisis? O_o