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Quote:... facial mapping technology has been designed to improve television language dubbing, but it also has strong potential for those seeking to deceive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainm...-fake-news

This isn't the only place such technology is being utilised, a previous news article suggested that Disney has apparently been looking into further development of it for the entertainment industry (Motion capture for use in CGI sequences and films), funnily enough it's a company that deals with bringing fairy stories to life which subsequently is exactly what fake news is. (I'm not of course suggesting that Disney's fairy tales are linked to fake news.)

Other previous examples of such manipulate was fake porn or "deepfake" technology (as coined by?)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437239-fake-news-porn-reality/
Luckily, if it's a public figure, multiple outlets will likely have the footage for comparison. As with all news, only trust the parts that sources with widely disparate biases agree on. News consumers have to be their own fact-checkers.
(Nov 15, 2018 09:18 AM)stryder Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:... facial mapping technology has been designed to improve television language dubbing, but it also has strong potential for those seeking to deceive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainm...-fake-news


Echoes of Jean Baudrillard in there somewhere?

On the recreational side, guess it's time for their devotees to mourn a famed and nostalgic characteristic of Japanese monster movies and HK kung fu flicks becoming passé.

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(Nov 15, 2018 09:18 AM)stryder Wrote: [ -> ][...] This isn't the only place such technology is being utilised, a previous news article suggested that Disney has apparently been looking into further development of it for the entertainment industry (Motion capture for use in CGI sequences and films), funnily enough it's a company that deals with bringing fairy stories to life which subsequently is exactly what fake news is. (I'm not of course suggesting that Disney's fairy tales are linked to fake news.)

Other previous examples of such manipulate was fake porn or "deepfake" technology (as coined by?)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437239-fake-news-porn-reality/

"The lines between fact and fiction are becoming further blurred by the emergence of so called 'deepfake' technology that makes it easy to create fake videos by superimposing one image onto another. Last year such videos were posted on the internet by a Reddit user named 'deepfakes' that appeared to show various celebrities performing hardcore pornographic acts, including incest. Their faces had been superimposed onto those of porn actors without consent. Although websites such as Reddit and Pornhub have since denounced and banned deepfake pornography, others view deepfake technology as a good business opportunity."

I assume the level of face substitution that they're referring to is far more convincing and realistic than Trump wrestling videos or Tom Ballard's photoshop-like doctoring of an attempted sex-blackmail photo of Harvey Bains in that old "Waiting For God" episode titled The Christening.

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That’s funny, C C. How in the hell do you remember all these little scenes?

Hmm…facial mapping technology, perfect! That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Cool
(Nov 18, 2018 02:37 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ]That’s funny, C C. How in the hell do you remember all these little scenes?


Unfortunately I've got one of those scatter-pattern memories that might be good for trivia game shows, but is useless for practical pursuits like helping me find my way back out of an IKEA store.

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With each successive generation will natural selection see to it that we become less/more likely to be fooled or become better/worse at deception, all of which leads to a society consisting primarily of one of the following......fooled, sceptical or fraudulent. Casually speaking I think those 3 selections are in the proper order of dominance for today's human population but will or can it change? Does it take more intelligence to fool than be fooled? Deceiving, doubting or debunking .... are they evolutionary traits absolutely necessary for our species' intelligence to evolve to a higher level?
(Nov 18, 2018 05:14 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]With each successive generation will natural selection see to it that we become less/more likely to be fooled or become better/worse at deception, all of which leads to a society consisting primarily of one of the following......fooled, sceptical or fraudulent. Casually speaking I think those 3 selections are in the proper order of dominance for today's human population but will or can it change? Does it take more intelligence to fool than be fooled? Deceiving, doubting or debunking .... are they evolutionary traits absolutely necessary for our species' intelligence to evolve to a higher level?

The future of that probably won't be anymore extreme than it was in the deeper past, when lack of education and travel/worldly experience in the overwhelming provincial population aided the mountebanks, rogues, and knaves. And of course there was also little or no critical, objective, neutral information outlets free of political, religious and other culture-bias and self-interest propaganda. Gossip, anecdotes, and entertaining exaggerations were the "news" channels of the day.

Which is to say, if evolutionary process in humans ever reacts generally to the pressures of social deception, then the crests for such were just as available in bygone ages as will be tomorrow. In terms of narrower adjustments, it's difficult to imagine cognitive radar for recognizing specific new tricks, which will still likely fall within an existing broader mental category, becoming genetically ingrained within a few generations. (Similar to an inherent fear of tree-climbing serpents or generic snake-like forms incrementally arising in arboreal primates over hundreds of thousands or millions of years.)

The long-past development of "grudger" personalities (sported in older sociobiology and reciprocal altrusim contexts back in the '80s) would already be a step up from the "suckers" that "cheaters" exploited. With deceivers / imposters, etc, being an arms-race response to the grudgers' manner of defense.

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Long-lost Renaissance videos emerge showing Mona Lisa in real life. The one in the center has really got her going, the other two look kind of restrained. The centuries old question still stands: is Mona Lisa happy or sad?

[Image: monalisa.gif]

Apparently they film some other woman's face in motion, then make a map of how various points on the face move in relation to each other. Then they project the Mona lisa face onto that map and animate it so that the points on the Mona Lisa face move in the same way.
(Nov 15, 2018 09:18 AM)stryder Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:... facial mapping technology has been designed to improve television language dubbing, but it also has strong potential for those seeking to deceive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainm...-fake-news

This isn't the only place such technology is being utilised, a previous news article suggested that  Disney has apparently been looking into further development of it for the entertainment industry (Motion capture for use in CGI sequences and films), funnily enough it's a company that deals with bringing fairy stories to life which subsequently is exactly what fake news is.  (I'm not of course suggesting that Disney's fairy tales are linked to fake news.)

Other previous examples of such manipulate was fake porn or "deepfake" technology (as coined by?)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437239-fake-news-porn-reality/

Disney ...
is facing horrible(having to pay wages & working conditions for human children) issues by having to employ real human children.
as soon as they can replace the humans with robot slaves, it will be done.

bottom line sales managers driving the company product & company mission.
oh so not very disney

maybe TV stars wll gradually collect and start promoting real people as actors so the tv networks are not taken over by computers making digital content.

what is the american boom n bust business model stratergy that drives product and content design ?


scatter effect
throw enough crap out that you hope to cover all the possible variations with the same generic product dressed as something new and different when it is exactly the same.


when it comes to imagination & inspiration ..."true art" you need creative minds being creative

they no longer have the vision or ability to be the best, so they become one of the least worst in an al you can eat discount race to the bottom market.
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