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Quote:So your trust of your family is just a chemical reaction evolved to make people cooperate?

Where did I say that?
(Sep 30, 2018 02:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:So your trust of your family is just a chemical reaction evolved to make people cooperate?

Where did I say that?

(Sep 29, 2018 09:31 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Why would love and altruism evolve in family relationships? Because it enhances the survival of the members to cohere as a group. There is nothing divine about it. It is the bond of kinship that contributes to the well-being and survival of all the members.

That's the only explanation you gave.
(Sep 30, 2018 03:53 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 30, 2018 02:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:So your trust of your family is just a chemical reaction evolved to make people cooperate?

Where did I say that?

(Sep 29, 2018 09:31 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Why would love and altruism evolve in family relationships? Because it enhances the survival of the members to cohere as a group. There is nothing divine about it. It is the bond of kinship that contributes to the well-being and survival of all the members.

That's the only explanation you gave.

Where did I say my trust in my family is a chemical reaction? Why would you think I said that?
(Sep 30, 2018 04:14 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 30, 2018 03:53 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 30, 2018 02:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:So your trust of your family is just a chemical reaction evolved to make people cooperate?

Where did I say that?

(Sep 29, 2018 09:31 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Why would love and altruism evolve in family relationships? Because it enhances the survival of the members to cohere as a group. There is nothing divine about it. It is the bond of kinship that contributes to the well-being and survival of all the members.

That's the only explanation you gave.

Where did I say my trust in my family is a chemical reaction? Why would you think I said that?

Again, that's the only reasoning you've given.

(Sep 30, 2018 12:01 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 29, 2018 09:31 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 29, 2018 09:25 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]It is a faith (complete trust) in their goodness. If you believe that goodness is just a result of social/evolutionary pressures,...
Why would love and altruism evolve in family relationships? Because it enhances the survival of the members to cohere as a group. There is nothing divine about it. It is the bond of kinship that contributes to the well-being and survival of all the members.
So your trust of your family is just a chemical reaction evolved to make people cooperate?

Now if you don't understand that the evolutionary psychology of emotions is mediated by neurotransmitters, like dopamine and serotonin (e.g. chemical reactions), that's your own ignorance.
Quote:Now if you don't understand that the evolutionary psychology of emotions is mediated by neurotransmitters, like dopamine and serotonin (e.g. chemical reactions), that's your own ignorance.

No..love and trust is a complex experience processed in the temporal lobe and the amygdala. It is not just a chemical in the brain.

At this point it's obvious you have nothing more to bitch about and are interested only in insulting me. Gladly moving on now...
(Sep 30, 2018 04:33 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Now if you don't understand that the evolutionary psychology of emotions is mediated by neurotransmitters, like dopamine and serotonin (e.g. chemical reactions), that's your own ignorance.

No..love and trust is a complex experience processed in the temporal lobe and the amygdala. It is not just a chemical in the brain.

For example, the amygdala outputs driven by threat detection alter information processing in diverse regions of the brain.  One important set of outputs result in the secretion of chemicals throughout the brain (norepinephrine, acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin) and body (hormones such as adrenalin and cortisol).
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...ear-center


Temporal Lobes and Emotion
Contained within these lobes is the amygdala. The amygdala is the brain’s panic button and has a more specific function in mammals that survive based upon a “fight or flight” response. The amygdala attaches an emotional layer to sensory input, such as the sense that a lion is about to attack.  Other limbic structures overlap into areas of the temporal lobes.
- https://braininjuryhelp.com/temporal-lob...al-cortex/


All mediated by neurotransmitters, e.g. chemical reactions.
Quote:At this point it's obvious you have nothing more to bitch about. Gladly moving on now...
At this point it's obvious you don't understand the basic science, and have only tried to backpedal from your own sterile explanation of trust without offering anything else whatsoever. When you give no other explanation for trust than evolution and survival, and then get squeamish about your own description, we can only conclude that you are hopelessly confused...and likely suffering from cognitive dissonance, considering the seeming self-contradiction.  

Typical.  Rolleyes
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