(May 6, 2018 05:39 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 14, 2018 09:18 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Only a French man would behave like that...and end up liking women who act like men.
(May 6, 2018 12:12 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Do you realize how much influence women have over men?
I certainly like competent women. It's an attractive quality.
This isn’t a dating site. I’m not asking what men find attractive or how to win a man’s heart. Zippers aren’t that complicated.
However, your response addresses my main concern, which is that referent power is the main source that women tend to rely on, e.g., physical attractiveness, warmth, agreeableness, and similarities.
Because traditional gender roles prescribed men with more legitimate and expert power, they’re freer to be more direct and assertive. If we behave in the same manor, we’re more likely than males to be disliked, and we risk losing the one power that is more readily available to us, i.e., referent power.
Whoa! You think the only way a woman can appear competent to a man is through sex? O_o
Likeability between the sexes often involves attraction, but not all attraction is physical.
I've met women who demonstrate a mastery in some skill that sparks some attraction their physical appearance would not.
The simple fact is that if men were attracted to male behavior, they would be gay.
They are not just traditional gender roles when research has shown that the more egalitarian the society, where you might expect less difference between the sexes, you actually find more difference between the sexes than in societies with more gender inequality.
Women can be assertive, but just like men, they have to calibrate it to their goals. A man can be so assertive that he is widely seen as an asshole or chauvinist, which usually doesn't serve many goals. A woman can be so assertive that she is seen as bossy or haughty. It depends on your goals, and especially what means you use to pursue them. Even among men, cooperation is useful, so some amount of agreeableness is as well.
Yes, people are use to certain strategies used by each gender, because those strategies have evolutionary origins. Outliers always face obstacles.
Quote:Oh, sure, women can be assertive but only when we’re advocating for others. You said it yourself.
(Mar 15, 2018 05:22 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe go ask momma SS to hold your hand so you can post on big bad scary subjects.
And why is that? We’re supposed to be supportive, and tend to other people’s needs, but self-promotion…fuhgeddaboudit. That's just for point scoring cunts.
No, I said that because you had developed a habit of jumping in on MR's trolling and defending his behavior. Just as you did in your reply:
(Mar 15, 2018 05:43 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 15, 2018 05:22 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe go ask momma SS to hold your hand so you can post on big bad scary subjects.
I could be wrong but I think MR may be older than me. I think he handles you just fine on his own. In fact, whenever I peek in on your little squabbles, I think "Oh, yeah! Who's your daddy, Syne?"
Like that MR thread that he deleted from the Vacuum Chamber.
And P.S.C. sounds like catty female talk. I've never heard a guy say it, nor do I know any equivalent phrase specifically referring to women.
A lot of your problems seem to be of your own making.