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(Dec 19, 2017 07:09 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Two striking videos of ufos caught on military pilots' infrared camera:

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/

From the description, I'd guess that at least one of these comes from the sighting that the New York Times was writing about.

Observed by multiple pilots. Recorded on video and FLIR. Watched on radar.

Pretty clearly something was really there. It wasn't just imagination, psychological quirks or technological faults with one recording instrument.

I'm not prepared to say that it was space-aliens. I don't know what it was. But it certainly seems to be something out there in the objective world.
(Dec 22, 2017 03:34 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not prepared to say that it was space-aliens. I don't know what it was. But it certainly seems to be something out there in the objective world.

I agree, and I'd be surprised if anyone claims these videos are somehow illegitimate.
Former head of the Pentagon UFO program interviewed on CNN....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2b4qSoMnKE&t=187s
More details have leaked on the sighting described in post #3 of this thread:

Here's the leaked report:

https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/...ver1.0.pdf

News stories:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-e...1187688105

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...c-UFO.html

This has to be one of the most interesting UFO sightings of all time.

Observed on advanced radar on an AEGIS missile cruiser. Sighting confirmed (in fragmentary fashion) by radar on fighter planes and by a separate Hawkeye AWACS aircraft nearby. (The thing seems to have exhibited stealth characteristics.) Observed from multiple angles by multiple F-18 pilots who were flying in the area for exercises. Recorded on camera both visually and on infrared.

And interestingly, possibly associated with a large unidentified undersea object of some sort. A submarine in the area detected nothing unusual on its sonar, and it's possible that the circular area of agitation of the sea surface beneath the white 'tic-tac' UFO was caused by the UFO's unknown propulsion system when it was at low altitude. (One of the pilots compared it to a Harrier hovering.)

[My speculation]I'm wondering if this thing was a US Navy UCAV of some highly classified 'black project' sort, maybe flying out of San Clemente Island (off the coast of San Diego). San Clemente Island is owned by the Navy, supposedly there's next to nothing there and it's mostly used as a target range. Few lights show from the San Diego side, consistent with this.

But I'm told by civilian sailors who have sailed around the island, that the whole west side of the island is lit up at night where it can't be seen from the California mainland. Some kind of significant facility is there, and talk is that it's used for things like missile and sonar testing. So maybe it's used for testing stealth unmanned combat vehicles as well. (I just associate that island with secret activities.)

If that's what the white tic-tac was, it has a more advanced propulsion system than anything publicly revealed, capable of very fast vertical climbs and descents, with a range of speeds (based on what's been observed) ranging from hover to up to 4,000 mph (hypersonic). That's way more advanced than anything that's ever been publicly revealed. (Which makes me assign this speculation of mine a fairly low probability.)

But it makes sense that if the Navy has a secret super-high-performance stealth combat air vehicle like that that's never been publicly acknowledged, they might want to test it against the advanced detection capabilities of a carrier battle group with all of its jets and radars. (Certainly as good as anything that any potential foreign adversary has.) And it might explain why the Navy was so uninterested in the reports after they were subsequently submitted to Naval Intelligence. Too much followup might 'out' their own secret program.[/My speculation]
UFOs are a real and abundantly evidenced phenomena. Unfortunately, they remain one of the most mysterious---too mysterious even for science.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/NewSite/Papers/UFOQuotes.htm

Francis Ridge, UFO researcher, site coordinator, NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena)



“The following is what makes UFOlogy worth pursuing and is not intended for the close-minded. We already have:



1) Millions of sightings worldwide and a hundred-thousand-plus sightings are on computer (UFOCAT).


2) 3,000-plus sightings from aircraft (Dr. Richard Haines).


3) 489 radar cases, many radar/visual (Dominique Weinstein); 363 radar cases, 76 as R/V (USAF records alone).


4) 5600 trace cases documented, 4104 involving UFO visual sightings (CUFOS).


5) Over 500 cases of E-M effects associated with UFO sightings (CUFOS) and 185 E-M cases documented involving UFOs near aircraft (Dr. Richard Haines).


6) Hundreds, if not thousands, of excellent close encounters by credible obswervers whose testimony in court would be taken at face value.


7) About 4,000 (701 originally) UNKNOWNS listed in Project Blue Book files.”
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