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Quote:Good choices do nullify the obstacles of ones past, otherwise drug and alcohol abusers could never recover.

No they don't. There will always be those obstacles of their past pulling them back, and also the racism from judgemental asswipes like you that seek to blame them for not being up to your standards. Those who make something of themselves despite these setbacks are to be honored as having overcome these obstacles, not because the obstacles weren't there, but because they were strong enough to do it. And those who don't? So what? The deck is stacked against them anyway. That they survive how they can everyday is also a glory you will never grasp. You who thrive on hatred and condemnation of those who are different from you. Now I have to go take a shower because I feel filthy every time I correspond to you and your level of vile lifeforms.

Oh and lookie! Syne has dug up another graph proving once again what shitbags black people are. You make me sick. Don't waste my time anymore.

(Nov 18, 2017 08:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Good choices do nullify the obstacles of ones past, otherwise drug and alcohol abusers could never recover.

No they don't. There will always be those obstacles of their past pulling them back, and also the racism from judgemental asswipes like you that seek to blame them for not being up to your standards. Those who make something of themselves despite these setbacks are to be honored as having overcome these obstacles, not because the obstacles weren't there, but because they were strong enough to do it. And those who don't? So what? The deck is stacked against them anyway. That they survive how they can everyday is also a glory you will never grasp. You who thrive on hatred and condemnation of those who are different from you. Now I have to go take a shower because I feel filthy every time I correspond to you and your level of vile lifeforms.

Oh and lookie! Syne has dug up another graph proving once again what shitbags black people are. You make me sick. Don't waste my time anymore.

Drug/alcohol abusers never recover? O_o
I know many who would tell you to speak for yourself.
It's not my standard, you ignorant bigot, it's evolution. The same evolution that means they are just as capable as you.
The only real obstacles are those of bad parenting and policies of bad incentives, and yes, those who overcome that are to be applauded.
"And those who don't? So what?" So you're just fine with writing off the blacks who can't overcome Democrat policies of dependence? Just another hashtag campaign, huh?
The deck IS stacked against them, but it is the privilege of Democrats using them for tokenism, not whites in general.
Yes, I'm sure you think all whites act like the racist Democrats you associate/identify with, but that's just a figment of your bigoted little bubble.

See, I wouldn't ever say things like "what shitbags black people are". It wouldn't even cross my mind to attribute that kind of thinking to even my worst enemy (because I can't even imagine thinking that way), but it just rolls right off your vile racist tongue. It really doesn't take much to see through your thin veneer of racial equality rhetoric. You say blacks have no agency ("has nothing to do with free choice"), can't live up to normal standards of the human species (even though they once did), infantilize them as requiring help from the white man, readily write off any who can't escape your Democrat shit holes, and readily characterize them as "shitbags". That graph is evidence of what Democrat policies have done to blacks since the inception of welfare. It's not an indictment of the entire race. It's a demonstration of them being targeted by racist Democrats.

You SHOULD feel filthy. You're a disgusting piece of human excrement, projecting your evil racism on others to avoid dealing with it and the consequences of the policies and attitudes your bigotry promotes.

Quote:See, I wouldn't ever say things like "what shitbags black people are"

Right..because you're just the one that posts graphs and studies showing what shitbags black people are compared to whites. Why don't you own your pathetic racism Syne? It would give you more credibility than this charade you perform of being some crusader for bettering the black race, which ofcourse wouldn't need bettering if you didn't assume they were all just shitbags.They don't need bettering. It's not a matter of them exercising some dubious freewill in a vaccum. They need to be given the same opportunities that white folk get as their own birthright. Just a little hand up against the constant discrimination they face in hiring and the poverty they struggle to get out of and which deprives them of the benefits of a good education, affordable housing, affordable healthcare, and good jobs.

Look..Nobody is forcing these benefits on them. They still have the freewill to refuse the help and struggle on their own. So it is ridiculous to assert they are made worse by these benefits. Helping people economically only helps them over time exercise more freedom and independence. It gives them more choices not fewer ones.

And besides, how can receiving benefits hold black people back if as you insist not even poverty and racism holds them back? They always have freewill right? They are always able to make free choices in a vaccum of indetermination as you insist. You're delusional.

(Nov 18, 2017 04:56 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:See, I wouldn't ever say things like "what shitbags black people are"

Right..because you're just the one that posts graphs and studies showing what shitbags black people are compared to whites. Why don't you own your pathetic racism Syne? It would give you more credibility than this charade you perform of being some crusader for bettering the black race, which ofcourse wouldn't need bettering if you didn't assume they were all just shitbags.They don't need bettering. It's not a matter of them exercising some dubious freewill in a vaccum. They need to be given the same opportunities that white folk get as their own birthright. Just a little hand up against the constant discrimination they face in hiring and the poverty they struggle to get out of and which deprives them of the benefits of a good education, affordable housing, affordable healthcare, and good jobs.

Look..Nobody is forcing these benefits on them. They still have the freewill to refuse the help and struggle on their own. So it is ridiculous to assert they are made worse by these benefits. Helping people economically only helps them over time exercise more freedom and independence. It gives them more choices not fewer ones.

And besides, how can receiving benefits hold black people back if as you insist not even poverty and racism holds them back? They always have freewill right? They are always able to make free choices in a vaccum of indetermination as you insist. You're delusional.

Wow, you're really just coming right out with your racism now. I don't, but apparently you interpret this graph (from the center-left Brookings Institute) as implying blacks are "shitbags" (and you keep repeating that vile description with seeming glee).

The ONLY reason you could even try to make these claims is because you deny the agency of blacks.
Why don't you own the minority destroying policies you advocate with your support of racist Democrats (slavery, KKK, Jim Crow, minority dependence)?

So you think black lives/circumstances DON'T "need bettering"?! O_o
Of course you don't. You're happy to have them as a permanent underclass. What kind of insecure little prick needs others to do worse so you can feel better about youself? Apparently racists like you. I keep assuming you're trying to shame people for their privilege, but you're really crowing about it.

You infantilize them as needing to be given things and outright deny their agency. That is what slave owners did, saying the black man couldn't care for himself or behave in a civilized manner without the lash.

Again, the oppression they suffer from is at the hands of Democrat policies, where they are most segregated into poor neighborhoods in areas run by Democrats for decades, causing their schools to fail and placing them further from good jobs and healthcare access (except for abortion services).

Oh, how gracious of you to allow them to turn down your benevolent help. You can hear the condescending derision dripping off your "They still have the freewill to refuse the help and struggle on their own." You presume that, without your white help, they will struggle. Paying more in welfare than they can get at a full-time job only ensures they remain dependent on your oh so gracious white teat. "Affordable housing" is a dog whistle for ghetto, "affordable healthcare" a dog whistle for abortion services, and there are no good jobs in those neighborhoods...and none that pay better than welfare.

It's hard for blacks to make good choices when they are raised as victims, treated as infants, and given perverse incentives to remain so. That you can't see the obvious consequences of the policies you advocate just demonstrates how far you're repressed your acknowledgement of your vile racist motives. Black economics were improving steadily before LBJ's Great Society, but they've never improved since then.

LOL! You're not even making sense anymore. You deny blacks are held back by poverty and racism and yet insist they are held back by benefits granted by the govt. You're contradicting your own freewill fantasy right there. If they have freewill in the former, then they must have freewill in the latter. But in reality, being helped economically doesn't take away choices. It grants more choice and freedom from the rut of poverty, unemployment, and discrimination. It frees them from these undeserved burdens. If you weren't such an ignorant asshole racist trying to blame blacks for their own society-imposed condition you'd see this. But you don't. That's the effect of racism. It blinds you to the reality of inequality and white privilege. And it ends up rationally justifying the hatred for minorities that was there all along. How convenient.

(Nov 18, 2017 07:54 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]You're not even making sense anymore. You deny blacks are held back by poverty and racism and yet insist they are held back by benefits granted by the govt. You contradicting your own freewill fantasy. Being helped economically doesn't take away choices. It grants more choice and freedom from the rut of poverty, unemployment, and discrimination. It frees them from the these burdens. If you weren't just an ignorant asshole trying blame blacks for their own condition you'd see this. But you don't. That's the effect of racism. It blinds you to the reality of inequality and white privilege.

Of course it doesn't make sense to a racist in heavy denial, like you. The benefits provided by the government are what KEEP them in poverty. You know, the permanent underclass you love so much. Left to their own devices, I believe that they are more than capable of doing much better for themselves, but welfare systems incentivize dependence, not independence. Many people would make less money at an entry-level job than they do on welfare. There is no feasible choice if you need every dollar you get from welfare and jobs pay less. But you're too willfully ignorant and satisfied with their circumstances to look into that. As long as your tax dollars can make you feel superior and benevolent, you're happy. I repeatedly blamed Democrat policies for their condition. It's YOU who insists they need help because they are too inferior to do it themselves. And you're too intellectually dishonest to ever see your own repressed racist motives. You're just happy self-righteously defending systems that keep them down while making sure they never listen to people who actually believe in their equal agency.

Right...not having enough money doesn't hold black people back, but having enough money does hold them back. lol!
You're insane and deserve all the bitterness and stress that your own hatred of black people afflicts you with. Enjoy your misery. I'm done trying to show a deliberately self-blinding prick the reality of what is right in front of him.

(Nov 18, 2017 08:18 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Right...not having enough money doesn't hold black people back, but having enough money does hold them back. lol!
You're insane and deserve all the bitterness and stress that your own hatred of black people afflicts you with. Enjoy your misery. I'm done trying to show a deliberately self-blinding prick the reality of what is right in front of him.

LOL! Quit trying to project your pathetic bitterness and stress. You're obviously trying to do nothing but prop up your own racist presumptions about the lack of black agency.

There are no pay raises on welfare, moron. And there is often a pay cut going from welfare to an entry-level job. So it's only your racist ignorance that keeps you from understanding how your advocated policies directly harm minorities. But do you really care enough to look into it? No, you're happy to have a permanent underclass. Makes your depressed little life feel better.

At least the KKK doesn't pretend to help blacks while holding a boot on their neck. They generally just do their silly little marches. You actively harm more people than they ever could. All the inner city deaths are at your feet, sociopathic racist.

Quote:At least the KKK doesn't pretend to help blacks while holding a boot on their neck

LOL! Ending it all with a salute to the KKK. You're pathetic..

(Nov 18, 2017 08:55 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:At least the KKK doesn't pretend to help blacks while holding a boot on their neck

LOL! Ending it all with a salute to the KKK. You're pathetic..

Only you would see that as a "salute"...just to distract from everything else that demonstrates how your policies harm minorities. Notice how you didn't refute a single fact I cited. The only question is whether you're really that ignorant or really that evil.