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(Mar 6, 2017 11:16 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]So if I were to move to Baghdad from Canada, increasing Iraq's cultural diversity by 1, I would be considered a threat to local peace if say for instance I strolled down Main St. carrying a placard espousing the virtues of atheism? By not assimilating, I'd be creating fear amongst local populace? Now if I was to assimilate, become one of the dominant religion etc., then would fear be replaced by simple ordinary distrust, IOW's less fearful than not assimilating?

No, in that case, the prevailing culture could be an immediate threat to you. I don't know how tolerant Baghdad may be. If Sharia law is upheld, you could definitely be in danger, but instead of it being from fear of you, it would be fear of the local Imam, or what have you.

In western countries, allowing an influx of diversity without some measure of assimilation has led to a spike in crime, including violence and sexual assault. In such environments, people would do well to proactively protect themselves. It's not about a perceived threat, but a real one.
Zinjanthropos Wrote:Whether I wanted to assimilate or not in any country I move to, shouldn't be a problem, right?

It isn't just an individual matter concerning a particular immigrant's choice whether or not to assimilate, it's an issue of the size and scale of the influx and the effects that large immigrant inflows are having on the place where the influx is occurring.

If the inflow of immigrants is large enough, and if the new arrivals are highly distinct culturally from the people in their new country, then if they fail to culturally transform themselves and rapidly assimilate they will end up congregating together, taking over existing neighborhoods and towns, and creating what are in effect little foreign colonies in the new country. The existing culture and population will find itself displaced from ever-growing areas of their own country and will feel like outsiders in those alien places. The new arrivals will start complaining about how the culture they aren't assimilating into treats them as outsiders and doesn't particularly like them, and hence cries of "racism" and "discrimination" will arise and political knees will jerk. The unassimilated arrivals will become the darlings of the left. As calls for "multiculturalism" increase, the foreign enclaves will start agitating for the culture of their old country (such as Islamic law and tradition) having equal standing with the native cultures and traditions of wherever they happen to currently be living. Locals will start to feel that their own native cultures are being threatened, but any attempt by those locals to oppose the changes being forced on them by their ruling elites will be condemned as "xenophobia".

I think that we have all seen that happening. It's currently a huge and extremely divisive issue in Europe, the single issue that will probably end up being most responsible for destroying the European Union.
Quote:The unassimilated arrivals will become the darlings of the left. As calls for "multiculturalism" rise, the foreign enclaves will start agitating for the culture of their old country (such as Islamic law and tradition) having equal standing with the native cultures and traditions of wherever they happen to currently be living. Locals will start to feel that their own native cultures are being threatened, but any attempt by those locals to oppose the changes being forced on them by their ruling elites will be condemned as "xenophobia". 

Are you saying there's an advantage being an unassimilated culture in Europe?
(Mar 7, 2017 04:46 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:The unassimilated arrivals will become the darlings of the left. As calls for "multiculturalism" rise, the foreign enclaves will start agitating for the culture of their old country (such as Islamic law and tradition) having equal standing with the native cultures and traditions of wherever they happen to currently be living. Locals will start to feel that their own native cultures are being threatened, but any attempt by those locals to oppose the changes being forced on them by their ruling elites will be condemned as "xenophobia". 

Are you saying there's an advantage being an unassimilated culture in Europe?

Only if you wish Europe to become as unstable as where you fled...which some argue is the real intent.
Men, women or children....who of that group finds it more difficult to assimilate? My guess is men, followed by women then children. If I use Canada as the country to immigrate to then I would think men from a culture where they have authority over women would find it hard. Women however, may find it hard to assimilate into a less oppressive culture because their men don't want to give up authority, I don't know. Kids seem to find it easier but again their difficulties may lie more at home than away from it. 

Doesn't seem to be a lot of science on the subject when I Googled. Perhaps looking in the wrong area.
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