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EXCERPT: Very few millennials are interested in pursuing elected office, says political scientist Shauna Shames. [...] “Few in this generation are interested in serving in political office,” says Shames of millennials (roughly, people born between the early 1980s and late 1990s). “It wasn’t just women and people of color who had reasons not to be interested, although women of color did feel these reasons more deeply.”

[...] “For many of these young people, there were many rewards to running for office, but when they added up the costs, the overall net reward was around zero; often the high costs even outweighed the potential,” she says.

The biggest reason cited was the “unsavory” need to raise campaign funds—spending time asking others for money, and, in the process, what the respondents viewed as compromising one’s principles. [...] Another primary reason, says Shames, was the fear of media intrusion into the private lives of candidates and their families. “There was this overwhelming fear that one’s family would (be) under constant surveillance, gossiped about, or attacked,” she explains....
(Jan 28, 2017 08:20 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.futurity.org/millennials-elec...1345192-2/

EXCERPT: Very few millennials are interested in pursuing elected office, says political scientist Shauna Shames. [...] “Few in this generation are interested in serving in political office,” says Shames of millennials (roughly, people born between the early 1980s and late 1990s). “It wasn’t just women and people of color who had reasons not to be interested, although women of color did feel these reasons more deeply.”

[...] “For many of these young people, there were many rewards to running for office, but when they added up the costs, the overall net reward was around zero; often the high costs even outweighed the potential,” she says.

The biggest reason cited was the “unsavory” need to raise campaign funds—spending time asking others for money, and, in the process, what the respondents viewed as compromising one’s principles. [...] Another primary reason, says Shames, was the fear of media intrusion into the private lives of candidates and their families. “There was this overwhelming fear that one’s family would (be) under constant surveillance, gossiped about, or attacked,” she explains....

which country ?
(Jan 29, 2017 06:32 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]which country ?


Her surveys were conducted in the US.

Heck, I'd expect a significant number of college students questioned during any era to express disillusionment about politics. They haven't protectively acquired property and family yet and are still hung-up on those lingering Catcher In The Rye "adults are phony" assorted incarnations over the decades. Once they make their own contributions to community hypocrisy and have enough procedural marketing spiels and professional courtesy acting under their own belts while working for _X_ companies and institutions, those impractically over-elevated standards will get grayed-up by real world complexities.
(Jan 29, 2017 08:02 AM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan 29, 2017 06:32 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]which country ?


Her surveys were conducted in the US.

Heck, I'd expect a significant number of college students questioned during any era to express disillusionment about politics. They haven't protectively acquired property and family yet and are still hung-up on those lingering Catcher In The Rye "adults are phony" assorted incarnations over the decades. Once they make their own contributions to community hypocrisy and have enough procedural marketing spiels and professional courtesy acting under their own belts while working for _X_ companies and institutions, those impractically over-elevated standards will get grayed-up by real world complexities.

lol you raise a very interesting question.
one i have pondered for many years.
should morality be defined pre or post social custom ?
(i am asserting that morality drives laws and that laws are an expresion of morality, thus morality must come beforelaw and in so is the driving force of the culture)

Students drive the morality of the family unit.
expressed as a social cohesive model devoid of allthe negative atributes of corruption.
what better dye to cast ?

note politics in the usa is a rich persons occupation. you must be a millionaire to be a politician in the US. that is how the culture has created it and how the american culture maintains it.

in the UK politics is quite different but still mostly governed and controlled by an over arching network of people in certain places and positions.

some countrys you need to be a working class person who is working a manual labour type job or you will not get any votes.
imagine that.






Fantastic performance one of the true greats ^

swinging back on topic "RE millenials
the millenials i know would not wish to be dishonest and it appears the perception of a lot of politicians is peopel who say one thing and do another.
quite asside from that the consciouseness is quite different.
a sense of personal achievement and a sense of making a difference while being artistic is very important to millenials.
mean-while (perceptually to a millenial)politics is governed by starchy old world ideologies which are constantly out of step with society and of touch with social innovation.
Millenials want adventure and accomplishment.
they also have stronger morals when it comes to equality. which is interesting considering the inate festering wound of inequality that runs right through the middle of politics in most countrys.
(Jan 29, 2017 09:34 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]swinging back on topic "RE millenials
the millenials i know would not wish to be dishonest and it appears the perception of a lot of politicians is peopel who say one thing and do another.
quite asside from that the consciouseness is quite different.
a sense of personal achievement and a sense of making a difference while being artistic is very important to millenials.
mean-while (perceptually to a millenial)politics is governed by starchy old world ideologies which are constantly out of step with society and of touch with social innovation.
Millenials want adventure and accomplishment.
they also have stronger morals when it comes to equality. which is interesting considering the inate festering wound of inequality that runs right through the middle of politics in most countrys.

I'm not a millenial but when I was young the people of my generation didn't really feel much different. I don't think the millenials provide anything truly new in the way of thinking. We desired the same things as I'm sure every young generation has. One thing I told myself growing up is that to never forget I was once young myself. Millenials don't bother me at all, when I disagree with them I just think about what it was like for me growing up. Then I just move on without acting like some old stubborn fool who forgot about being young once..
(Jan 28, 2017 08:20 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.futurity.org/millennials-elec...1345192-2/

EXCERPT: Very few millennials are interested in pursuing elected office, says political scientist Shauna Shames. [...] “Few in this generation are interested in serving in political office,” says Shames of millennials (roughly, people born between the early 1980s and late 1990s). “It wasn’t just women and people of color who had reasons not to be interested, although women of color did feel these reasons more deeply.”

[...] “For many of these young people, there were many rewards to running for office, but when they added up the costs, the overall net reward was around zero; often the high costs even outweighed the potential,” she says.

The biggest reason cited was the “unsavory” need to raise campaign funds—spending time asking others for money, and, in the process, what the respondents viewed as compromising one’s principles. [...] Another primary reason, says Shames, was the fear of media intrusion into the private lives of candidates and their families. “There was this overwhelming fear that one’s family would (be) under constant surveillance, gossiped about, or attacked,” she explains....

People are leery of the corrupting influence of power on human nature. Running for office also subjects one to intense media scrutiny and opposition data about oneself, one's loved ones, and one's associates. It will take a courageous and idealistic soul indeed to run for president after the 2016 election. Change will have to come not from top down but from bottom up---from social media grassroots movements and the desemination of ideas and phrases and images into popular culture. The gradual sea change for gay rights happened without electing a single gay person to the Oval Offfice. It was a cultural change not a political one. Social and economic justice in all its forms may require a simillar amount of time to work it's way up into our Zeitgeist.
(Jan 29, 2017 05:32 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan 29, 2017 09:34 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]swinging back on topic "RE millenials
the millenials i know would not wish to be dishonest and it appears the perception of a lot of politicians is peopel who say one thing and do another.
quite asside from that the consciouseness is quite different.
a sense of personal achievement and a sense of making a difference while being artistic is very important to millenials.
mean-while (perceptually to a millenial)politics is governed by starchy old world ideologies which are constantly out of step with society and of touch with social innovation.
Millenials want adventure and accomplishment.
they also have stronger morals when it comes to equality. which is interesting considering the inate festering wound of inequality that runs right through the middle of politics in most countrys.

I'm not a millenial but when I was young the people of my generation didn't really feel much different. I don't think the millenials provide anything truly new in the way of thinking. We desired the same things as I'm sure every young generation has. One thing I told myself growing up is that to never forget I was once young myself. Millenials don't bother me at all, when I disagree with them I just think about what it was like for me growing up. Then I just move on without acting like some old stubborn fool who forgot about being young once..

SSDD same shit different day...
i can appreciate your perspective as to whether there is any quantifiable difference.
i think it depends quite heavily on culture.
cultures that have equality Vs cultures that do not.
how does this effect knock on intellectual development and social & economical evolution ?