I am not sure Freudian type psychology is of much use to us. We all tend to develop our own life dramas and analyzing our personal dramas may just support them instead of free us of them. It can be frightening to give up our personal dramas because there is security in believing they are true and what makes us who we are. It is hard to imagine how our lives would be without them and the unknown is frightening. And giving up our personal drama is to face the fact that all those people who walked out of our lives may have had good reason for doing so and we creating that reason. Not that the other person wasn't doing the same negative thing, in fact, we likely would have avoided that other person, if that person did not fit well into our negative drama.
I sure don't want to claim to be an expert on this, but I want to offer something different. What if we are creating and recreating our own drama, not only in our own minds but in some subtle way we are recreating our drama in the physical world as well. What if everyone treats us in the same shitty way because we are doing something that brings this about, or at least from our perspective it appears the problem is caused by our bad luck or those other people. Try the following you tube once a week for a few weeks and see if it changes your karma, your experience of life and how you feel.
If you do this mental exercise please come back and say how you feel about it. I am experiencing a big effect mentally and physically, but that may be just me. It may not work as well for everyone.
(Dec 11, 2016 03:53 PM)Carol Wrote: [ -> ]I am not sure Freudian type psychology is of much use to us. We all tend to develop our own life dramas and analyzing our personal dramas may just support them instead of free us of them. It can be frightening to give up our personal dramas because there is security in believing they are true and what makes us who we are. It is hard to imagine how our lives would be without them and the unknown is frightening. And giving up our personal drama is to face the fact that all those people who walked out of our lives may have had good reason for doing so and we creating that reason. Not that the other person wasn't doing the same negative thing, in fact, we likely would have avoided that other person, if that person did not fit well into our negative drama.
I sure don't want to claim to be an expert on this, but I want to offer something different. What if we are creating and recreating our own drama, not only in our own minds but in some subtle way we are recreating our drama in the physical world as well. What if everyone treats us in the same shitty way because we are doing something that brings this about, or at least from our perspective it appears the problem is caused by our bad luck or those other people.
The adage is true. If you find many, varied people seem to have the same problem with you, or you with them, the problem likely stems from you. And this can have more real world effects than most imagine.
One day I was going to pick up some food in the drive-thru. First two places I stopped at were out of something I usually get, so I went to a third place. They messed up my order, but I had the clarity of mind to know that it must be something I was carrying around with me that day, so I let it go and enjoyed what I had.
A guy I use to work with always have problems with cashiers...everywhere.
Recognizing patterns can go a long way toward defusing these little subconscious dramatizations. I have very few personal dramas now days.
Hypnosis is just another way to avoid problems, instead of actually facing and working through them. It's a bad coping strategy.
(Dec 11, 2016 03:53 PM)Carol Wrote: [ -> ]giving up our personal drama is to face the fact that all those people who walked out of our lives may have had good reason for doing so and we creating that reason. Not that the other person wasn't doing the same negative thing, in fact, we likely would have avoided that other person, if that person did not fit well into our negative drama.
I hope this isn't a reflection of your personal life. Think positive but not so positive as to be sure you're life drama is negative. I think the biggest mistake we can make, at least initially, is to believe the bad shit only happens to ourselves. People have different tastes, interests, favorites, that's just the way it is.
Hypnosis works for some people, though i tend to think it should only be used by psychiatrists for specific purposes.
Allowing any old hack into your subconscious at a time where you feel soo ill at ease with yourself that you need change and/or therapy just seems foolhardy to my way of thinking.
Self Hypnosis...
i would rather call it self-subconscious-programming.(thats what it is)
if it works for you AWESOME. if it doesnt dont be surprised or disheartened. its much like suggesting someone meditate for an hour to resolve a personal relationship issue(whom has no meditation expereince).
to use such things properly they must be applied as a tool in the hands of someone whom is drama free, clean, not ill/sick/infected/upset/emotionally off balance/or carrying any other type of feeling(sex/loneliness/greed/envy/anger etc) and containing posative chi. nothing less is acceptable.
Personally i prefer to use mindfulness & meditation & subjective deep thought forward loading (this is the act of loading your subconscious with an issue or question so you continue to think about it for some time, being days or weeks until you come up with possible answers or ideas)
that said... if you wish to change something about yourself the best, cleanest, easiest & most efficient way to do that is immediately.
admittedly not everyone can change something immediately because they usually have a few other related things attached & some dramas to work through and shed/resolve/people to find closure with etc etc.
the drama needs to be resolved before the change can take place.
one could argue that your not ready or willing to change until you have resolved the drama(issue).
keeping in mind we are discussing generic personality/emotional dysfunctions of cyclic addictive negative process which are mostly rooted in functionality(meaning the person has normalised the drama into their personallife and needs to unwind it, detangle it and find a way to install the new or temporary behaviour while the grieving & loss period carrys out in the subconscious psyche AND while external relationships are changed to safely test if the relationship will be kept once the drama is removed.
note most people get divorced when they start to remove drama from their lifes because there is soo much dysfunctional behavious attached to their relationship that the relationship as it stands is soo heavily connected to support those negative behaviours that either both need to be doing the same self development or they need to seperate for the person choosing to move on and evolve.
(Dec 12, 2016 03:56 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec 11, 2016 03:53 PM)Carol Wrote: [ -> ]giving up our personal drama is to face the fact that all those people who walked out of our lives may have had good reason for doing so and we creating that reason. Not that the other person wasn't doing the same negative thing, in fact, we likely would have avoided that other person, if that person did not fit well into our negative drama.
I hope this isn't a reflection of your personal life. Think positive but not so positive as to be sure you're life drama is negative. I think the biggest mistake we can make, at least initially, is to believe the bad shit only happens to ourselves. People have different tastes, interests, favorites, that's just the way it is.
Yeah, and I think more recent science about how our brains work, can help free us from these wrong notions. Biologically we are programmed to remember the bad times easily and forget the good times. We tend to be self-centered and don't see how much the student who gets higher grades, studies to get those grades. Or a more fortunate person may find it impossible to understand why unfortunate people do not do well in life, wrongly believing it is all about effort. In general without science, we have plenty of thinking errors.
And with science, we can correct those errors and get good results.
And I wonder if Christianity is part of the problem. You know the idea that God protects us unless He is angry and is punishing us. My saintly grandmother feared this God would not allow her in heaven, and thought her paralysis caused by a stroke was a sign of God being displeased with her. Some have said Christianity is a very morbid religion, but then there are those who believe they are blessed by God, and sure enough that appears to be so, even when something goes wrong, they assume God is taking care of them. Science tells us, it is as we believe it to be.
(Dec 12, 2016 05:08 PM)Carol Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, and I think more recent science about how our brains work, can help free us from these wrong notions. Biologically we are programmed to remember the bad times easily and forget the good times. We tend to be self-centered and don't see how much the student who gets higher grades, studies to get those grades. Or a more fortunate person may find it impossible to understand why unfortunate people do not do well in life, wrongly believing it is all about effort. In general without science, we have plenty of thinking errors.
And with science, we can correct those errors and get good results.
And I wonder if Christianity is part of the problem. You know the idea that God protects us unless He is angry and is punishing us. My saintly grandmother feared this God would not allow her in heaven, and thought her paralysis caused by a stroke was a sign of God being displeased with her. Some have said Christianity is a very morbid religion, but then there are those who believe they are blessed by God, and sure enough that appears to be so, even when something goes wrong, they assume God is taking care of them. Science tells us, it is as we believe it to be.
Conversely, an unfortunate person often underestimates the effort involved to succeed...and thus never put in enough to do so. Of course, that effort also involves the effort to make good decisions.
Thinking about god has been shown to activate the same areas in the brain as empathy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story...=101617951
"Some of the same underlying abilities that support other sorts of complex human social behavior also support the behavior that we're terming 'religious belief,'"