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John Bonham's son once claimed that in a hotel room Jimmy Page had a meowing woman wearing a collar. Back when Page got him hooked on cocaine at the age of 16. But he was prodded to walk those claims back later on. Actually, a chained cat woman sounds pretty mild in contrast to the overall legendary antics associated with LZ or its band members as independents.
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JDA TALKS TREK
https://youtu.be/m8m4pkJ5W-g

VIDEO EXCERPTS: Geek culture has transformed from a big mainstream thing to a shrinking pie, where for years it has been trying to make the "normal" herd go away so we can have our little safe space. This has transformed the landscape of what you see in science fiction. And so the Hollywood production teams have immense pressure to accommodate the weird fetishes of these people.

I don't know if you've ever been to science fiction conventions or the like, but there's a lot of bizarre stuff that goes on in them during this era. I was at one basic science fiction convention. [...] There were two women decked out in leather. One of them had like cat ears, and another one was on all fours connected to a leash that was being dragged around by the other one in some humiliation ritual thing.

[...] And that's the entire point of this subgroup. All they want to do is parade their fetishes around and stick them in front of everybody else. They want to either force the traditional crowd to adapt or drive them out if they don't conform. And that is exactly what is happening across the board in science fiction and fantasy.

And Kurtzman's Star Trek is at the forefront of that. They can't just live and let live and do their own thing, you know. They have colonized the genre, and the "normal" fans have to adapt to this new world or else leave.

[...] And yes, they were trying to push this even harder in Strange New Worlds. And the network, as I covered yesterday, is dialing a lot of that back through edits right now. You can go watch my video on that...

So much pressure .... https://youtu.be/m8m4pkJ5W-g

They want the old fans back? "Modern audience" didn't work out?
https://youtu.be/ptoqa00qvHo

VIDEO INTRO: There are a couple articles that popped up on Bleeding Cooler the last couple days. They're both talking about essentially the same thing. That they want to unbreak Doctor Who, and they want to unbreak Star Trek. And how you do that is just going back to what worked before. OMG, what a novel idea. You just un___ the things you ___ up.

I don't understand why it took them this long to realize that they made a huge mistake. So, this one is about Doctor Who going out for tender, right? We talked about that. They're going to outsource Doctor Who, but the studio executives wanted to return to the Tennant/Smith era. You know, when the ratings were good and the merchandise sold well, right? When the show was popular and everybody didn't hate it.

That's what they want to do. Such a genius decision, right? Whoever gets Doctor Who, hopefully they will un___ Doctor Who.

And then also, not to be outdone, Star Trek. This is Terry Matalas, who did a very good job with Picard season 3, in my opinion. Some people didn't like it, but you know, I thought it was pretty good. [...] He wants to see Star Trek return to the Next Generation era or at least use that blueprint going forward.

I know he's been pushing for a spin-off series. It would be like the Next Next Generation, which would be Picard's kid and, you know, Seven of Nine and the New Enterprise and all that. And I think that might actually work. I would watch it if he were in charge. But they have to fix Star Trek, too. So, it's really interesting to see all of this happening.

Now, do I think Disney is going to fix Star Wars? No, I do not. I do not believe they're going to fix Star Wars. I think that Dave Filoni is very much a student of Kathleen Kennedy as much as he claims to be a student of George Lucas. I don't think things are going to get fixed over there.

Do I think DC could get fixed? Yeah, maybe. Do I think Marvel could? I don't know. We'll see how Doomsday is. But Spider-Man was pretty good.

It's weird. It's like we're going to have this period of time where all these studios made very piss-poor decisions and then they had to come crawling back to the old fans. We saw this with Dungeons and Dragons, too. But apparently they're laying off some people at Wizards who were partly responsible for the wokening of DnD.

They're trying to beg the old fans to come back. And I think that's what's happening. They thought they were going to chase this "modern audience" that does not exist, right? Or at least not in the numbers needed to make the business sustainable. Now, they have to go crawling back to the old fans. And I don't know if old fans are going to come back.

[...] Can they fix Doctor Who and Star Trek? Basically just pretend that everything that happened in the last 10 years never happened. If that, then yeah, I would consider coming back. And it can be done. You can totally ignore entire series. Just pretend it didn't happen.

With Doctor Who, it's barely an inconvenience. Just pick up with a new Doctor: Here are all my faces, and we're just not going to show Jody Whitaker and beyond because those never happened. Barely an inconvenience.

And Star Trek, you know, the Kurtzman era just never happened. Just ignore it. You know, that's the great thing about fiction. You can rewrite it and rewrite it if you have to....

Clownfish TV ... https://youtu.be/ptoqa00qvHo

That's assuming they still have writers even capable of writing like the older, more successful runs. The problem is that their current stock of writers can only write what they know... from inside their little bubble. How would you even start to reform things so good, non-DEI writers get hired?