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This argument is logically consistent with other ontological arguments. It explicitly states that God is defined as non-contingent.
One X, Therefore One God

X = matter or non-object. Information can have meaning without matter. This is how a misunderstanding of reality can be created by mind. Reality is comparable to self-configuration. Wisdom is information coming from a single source (reality). Meaningless information comes from many (objects).

My belief was incorrect we create meaning, just as our minds contain a self-configuration of reality, which is self-configurating along with reality (psychologists are still unclear as to what the mind is). Where the mind is not static and therefore not concept, it is self-configuring and therefore unbound. The SCSPL is intrinsic as well as is spacetime due to structure S which distributes over S (self-distributive). Spacetime is thus transparent from within. Where objects in reality are s, possessing the structure of one that merges the concepts and is self-dynamic and self-perceptual that is S. S is amenable to theological interpretation.

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The phrase "One X, therefore One God" suggests a philosophical or theological argument linking the concept of "X" to the existence of a singular divine entity.
It posits that information can have meaning without matter, implying that reality is self-configuring and can be understood through a single source of truth.

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The argument may explore the idea that God exists a priori, existing independently of human perception and understanding.

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This concept is often discussed in religious and philosophical contexts, where it is suggested that the universe itself is a manifestation of God's consciousness.

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For a deeper understanding, you may want to explore the specific arguments and interpretations presented in the sources.

So in short, the modal ontological argument is not the sole source for a proof of God. There have been far more powerful arguments than that. And given my experiences with the supernatural and mind expansion, I know beyond a reasonable doubt that God is real. With or without proof.
My main argument against the existence of God is where the fuck is he? If he really is a God he would've figured out some way to be with us by now instead of hiding and pretending he doesn't exist. And any God who does that isn't worth my time of day.
(Apr 18, 2026 04:59 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]My main argument against the existence of God is where the fuck is he? If he really is a God he would've figured out some way to be with us by now instead of hiding and pretending he doesn't exist. And any God who does that isn't worth my time of day.

Where is he? In a higher dimension that exists beyond the world of the living. 

I have actually seen God (but once) so I know He's real. He is immaterial, and so cannot affect the material dynamic of reality. He is a consciousness that resides beyond space and time. Do not concern yourself with finding God. You won't find Him unless you enter a higher dimension prior to death, which many are incapable of. That is why I believe you are arguing merely against a caricature of God and not the metaphysical reality that has plagued philosophers and theologians for centuries. Simply accept the logic of omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience and rise above the atheistic chasm that claims the lives of the ignorant.
Shadow Wolf said:
Then lets just go with the atheist claim we're all atheist, "I just believe one less god than you."

That is illogical that you can't disproportionate but only prove. Good ideas are falsifiable.
And if god has been proven then it wouldn't be a debate anymore. Instead it's speculation ams what feels right and should bes according to the speaker.

The Bible is ill suited for morality amd describing the human condition. According to the it all comes down to disobeying Abraham's god. That doesn't describe the world. Nor do ethnocentric claims about being gods chosen people.
As far as I can tell the further we get away from the Bible the better off we are.

Bear in mind that only the chosen few are able to access the supernatural realm. I lay claim to being among those. Hence, not only do I have access to a 6th sense and demonic forces as well as a universal consciousness, I also have logical arguments supporting them. Therefore for me there is no debate. I have answered the question of God.