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As I clearly said... we didn't hear anything. Even though a police helicopter wouldn't fit any of your criteria, an "overactive imagination" could certainly assume it did. How did it sneak up on us? Where did it come from? How was it propelled?
Quote:Yazata said: Being forced by events into acknowledging something that they didn't already accept, challenges the carefully curated self-image of themselves as final (Science justified!) judges of reality.

It's a self-appointed position requiring constant vigilance and a certain disingenuous "forgetting", as if every new UAP case is the first and only one that ever occurred. And of course when you live your entire life in adamant denial of the existence of what certainly appears to be real and repeatedly witnessed things, it must lead to a lot of anxiety and stress. It must keep Mick West and company very busy indeed, especially in this time of repeated Navy's and Pentagon's AARO office's confirmation of the UAP phenomenon. There is after all that one black swan that just might show up tomorrow. How do they ever sleep at night knowing their whole skeptic worldview constantly teeters precipitously on the brink of total oblivion?

Quote:As I clearly said... we didn't hear anything.

Bullshit you didn't. Any helicopter flying directly over you would be clearly hearable and identifiable. You'd also hear it coming up on you from a distance. They are as loud as fuck.

Quote:How was it propelled?

You don't know how a helicopter is propelled? Methinks you're trolling now.
(Dec 20, 2025 03:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]How do they ever sleep at night knowing their whole skeptic worldview constantly teeters precipitously on the brink of total oblivion?
Easy. That's a complete straw man of how skeptics actually think.

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Quote:As I clearly said... we didn't hear anything.

Bullshit you didn't. Any helicopter flying directly over you would be clearly hearable and identifiable. You'd also hear it coming up on you from a distance. They are as loud as fuck.
None of us heard it approach, and there were about ten of us there.

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Quote:How was it propelled?

You don't know how a helicopter is propelled? Methinks you're trolling now.
We couldn't see past the light. If we didn't know the obvious... that it must be a helicopter... we could not have told you how it hovered there.
How did you know it was a helicopter if it made no noise. Maybe it was a UAP..
I said none of us heard it approach. We were all just suddenly startled by a bright light on us, without any warning.
Once the surprise wore off, it clearly was a helicopter.... and none of us had any other "overactive imaginings."
(Dec 20, 2025 06:06 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]I said none of us heard it approach. We were all just suddenly startled by a bright light on us, without any warning.
Once the surprise wore off, it clearly was a helicopter.... and none of us had any other "overactive imaginings."

But you never heard it make a sound. How is a silent light shining down from above a helicopter?
(Dec 20, 2025 06:14 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]But you never heard it make a sound. How is a silent light shining down from above a helicopter?

Go ahead and find where you think I said "never."
Probably that overactive imagination again.
(Dec 20, 2025 06:38 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 20, 2025 06:14 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]But you never heard it make a sound. How is a silent light shining down from above a helicopter?

Go ahead and find where you think I said "never."
Probably that overactive imagination again.

So it WAS making a sound just like all helicopters do. Right..nothing to see here folks.
Again, for the reading-impaired, no one heard it approach. The light surprised everyone.
But thanks for illustrating your overactive imagination. See how eager you were to read things that weren't there to support your belief?
Oh it approached all right. And it made plenty of noise as it did. The fact that you weren't paying attention means nothing, especially with the sound of the pounding surf dominating the airwaves. So there was nothing mysterious about it at all. And it has nothing to do with the OP.
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