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Change in Under-5-Year-Old Population Over the Last 20 Years by US Metro Areas

It ranges from Austin TX where the number of small children almost doubled (up 98%) to my own San Francisco bay area, where the number of small children fell by 38% since 2005.

Ten of the top eleven metros with large growth in the number of small children are cities in Southern states. Phoenix AZ (+59%) is the other. Blue cities in blue states are more apt to have declining numbers of small children. New York (-34%), LA (-36%), Portland (-29%), Philadelphia (-27%), Detroit (-24%), Baltimore (-18%), Boston (-33%) and Chicago (-31%) are all down. Denver (+39%) is an exception with fairly healthy growth, while Washington DC (+14%) and Seattle (+7%) show small growth.

Which seems to be consistent with the observation that declines in birth rates is greatest among 'liberals', who are far below replacement, probably because of the prevalence of feminism among young women who see child-raising as too much of a burden on their lifestyles.

Not that helpful really. I can't tell if there used to be masses of 'em in some places 20 years ago and now more careful or .. well .. there it is.

(Nov 21, 2025 01:29 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ][...] Which seems to be consistent with the observation that declines in birth rates is greatest among 'liberals', who are far below replacement, probably because of the prevalence of feminism among young women who see child-raising as too much of a burden on their lifestyles.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6EfVxvWIAAu...name=large

As Crooks and Robinson exemplified... Left militancy will just groom, convert, and recruit from the breeder population itself.

Hollywood, for instance, is overflowing with young starlets ardently whining about the fascist water-tower towns they grew up in. Eager to please the Moral Nobility and Lord Protectors of the West and East coast establishment: "I moved out of my hometown because it was completely small-minded and not accepting of things that I'm accepting of. I feel so virtuous being here among you, today, at this historic place."

In a free market economy .. if females aren't breeding enough .. just pay them to do it. Possibly indirectly .. free schools .. free healthcare .. free child-minding .. things like that. Except. In a free market economy Indoctrination is cheaper .. so .. yes .. go with indoctrination.

Demographic collapse is happening around the globe. The US is actually temporarily better off than many countries.
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PETER ZEIHAN
https://youtu.be/qDIiURFyaic

VIDEO EXCERPT: . . . In addition, because the United States was part of the second cadre of countries to industrialize, we have seen our birth rates go down. But because the United States is such a big place with so many small towns and such huge options for suburbs, it’s declined a lot more slowly than everywhere else. So if you look at the data and we’ll throw a chart up here, you’ll see that the United States has been kind of hugging around that two, 2.1, area for the last 40 years, whereas a lot of other countries that are kind of in are pure class, plunged below it long ago.

That doesn’t mean that we are doomed to follow them if Americans keep aging at their current rate. If the birth rate keeps dropping at its current rate, we’re not going to be facing a Korean or a German style problem within the next 40 years, and probably closer to 50. so while this isn’t a great sign, it’s not like we’re about to jump off a cliff.

The other group of countries, the developing countries, are very different. these are the countries that, for the most part, did not develop the technologies of industrialization. It was thrust upon them. So you took a century, a century, a half of technical development in the West and in Japan, and in the course of under 30 years implemented it throughout most of what we now think of as the developing world.

And so they went directly from the farms to condos and in, in doing so saw their birth rates just plunge horrendously. And you can see that on the chart. China, of course, is the country that industrialized the most quickly got the growth boom from that, from not having a young generation. and now is well past the point of no return and is very close to having one of the lowest birth rates in the world.

So is there anything we can do about this? Well, there’s two things. The first is you can have meaningful immigration reform in order to bring in more people, but to bring in the scale of people that were required to tilt this, it would be pretty extreme. the second thing you can do is encourage policies that make it easier for younger families to have more kids.

Part of the economic growth story of places like Texas the last 30 years is that the land is cheap, the electricity is cheap, the food is cheap, and taxes are low. So if you’re a young family starting out, it’s easier to have a house with a yard and raise children. If you’re going to do that in San Francisco, whoo hoo hoo!

Or New York. Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Raising kids in a condo is no fun at all. one other little thing that I just kind of throw in there so that people understand that everything has a consequence over the same time that US birth rates have dropped since 1990. We’ve also seen the teen pregnancy rate drop by roughly half, and there is a direct correlation between those two things.

So saying you need more kids makes a lot of sense how you get more kids. That’s what really matters...

https://youtu.be/qDIiURFyaic

I think that having kids may in fact be less popular among liberals because liberals by and large seem to be those who are "free spirits" who question the traditions and biological mandates of their culture. The whole notion of getting married and having a family in the suburbs once called "The American Dream" may not be as believed in by liberals as it is by conservatives, who largely adhere to the religion and lifestyle of their parents. Hence the predominance of an alternative dream of becoming a sort of spiritual renegade or urban bohemian living a life of freedom and little commitment to society's ideals of what you should be.