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that consciousness is God.

I don't think you've read the whole thing. I am at a quarter of the first post, edging my way through it.

Quote:If the world is logical then it is subject to the rules of logic. Terms in a sentence are qualified by the copula using a form of the words is or is not. By applying the words is not to the concept of being as a whole you will get the concept no being or nothingness. And since it applies to the whole it is absolute by definition.
Now here is where the contradiction arises. Ideas are not concrete things but that does not mean they are not something. I can distinguish between a 9 which is an odd number and a square and an 8 which is an even number and not a square. They have different properties and are therefore things in their own right as concepts. But concepts seem to require a mind to exist. That is they are contingent on an observer.

This is a most fascinating read. Do you believe ideas are thus tangible. Could this imply that we "create" concepts and these concepts, like the Prime Observer's, can assume their own independent form and function?

Quote:Alumno deVerum said:
4- If Deism is true why would God would abandon It's creation? The world was not "created" therefore it was not "abandoned". You can't blame the evils in the world on God.
5- If God exists then why does It exist? God exists in order to avoid the "paradox of nothingness" and holds Itself in existence because It is self referential thus allowing God to say "I AM" the same foundation of the self we all share.
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If the world is basically concept it must be observed and, therefore, God must exist but that is not the same as saying the universe must be "created". If that is true then there is no divine purpose to the world. It exists simply because it can. However that does not mean our lives are meaningless. Only that we are responsible for creating that meaning for ourselves.

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Does this imply purpose?

Quote:Jeff 152 said:
great post i really enjoyed it. I consider myself an atheist but i like this idea. It is basically athiestic and doesnt involve any miracles or messiahs or any of that crap that turns me off of organized religion. It makes complete mathematical sense and explains how "something" could have come from "nothing"
Thanks very much

There's no need to ever dress up any highly consistent argument with ambiguous detail.

Just as thinking Being is to think, thinking Nothingness is to stop thinking. Which can be good sometimes. Sometimes it's good not to think and to be in the mode of thoughtless spontaneous becoming. Like we are when listening to sublime improvised violin solos on a rainy Sunday afternoon. Nothingness isn't all bad. In fact it may be the very essence of freedom.