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(Feb 27, 2024 11:52 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]Bailing out failed industry is a Canadian pastime.

And you have the tax rate to prove it.

The ruling is actually much more narrow than news outlets are making it out to be.

^^^ Being sued by the egg and/or sperm donor is just one possible pitfall for people routinely killing minors in the course of their work.

(Mar 2, 2024 02:54 PM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]^^^ Being sued by the egg and/or sperm donor is just one possible pitfall for people routinely killing minors in the course of their work.

Eventually the clinics will be sued for knowing how to do it but not wanting to risk it. And you know…every sperm is sacred.

https://youtu.be/k4mGrNGuJTM?si=2f40MguX3RdPHFle

The ruling only allows the couples who provide the embryos to sue if the embryos are destroyed without their consent.
It doesn't open any other potential liabilities than that. So IVF clinics shutting down over this ruling is an open admission that they cannot be responsible for the main products of their industry. Especially when the most it would require is backup power and moderate security measures.

As before .. the freeze/thaw process kills about 25% of the 'children' .. would parents be allowed to give their children 'swimming lessons' with a 25% death rate?

If some people could read, they'd see their comments were already addressed.

I was under the impression the 'pro life' thing went beyond giving parents the right to endanger or terminate the life of a 'child' .. if you say not then I'm sure you are correct.

(Mar 4, 2024 11:18 AM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]I was under the impression the 'pro life' thing went beyond giving parents the right to endanger or terminate the life of a 'child' .. if you say not then I'm sure you are correct.

Like don’t smoke or drink while pregnant?

I hope there is an assumption of risk attached to the parents in these IVF deals. Freezing, thawing, implanting and other risks associated with pregnancy have to be considered when drawing up a contract I would think but dropping the embryo on the floor isn’t one. OTOH I suppose a bad fall or accident could cause a natural abortion to take place.

In a case of one or the other……The decision to save the mother or developing baby is an interesting one. Wonder how Alabama would rule on that one?

the freeze/thaw process kills about 25% of the 'children' - will pro-lifers tolerate a woman choosing to kill 25% of her children?