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EXCERPTS: . . . Times are changing. The very fact that in the past few decades the theme of consciousness itself has become a central topic for psychologists and neuroscientists signals a transformation in the scientific landscape. For example, it is said among distinguished brain researchers that just 30 years ago they dared not disclose that their actual research topic was consciousness — they had to say they were studying visual perception, or processes of attention.

The prevailing advice was not to “out” yourself as a consciousness researcher before achieving permanent tenure of employment. Of course by then, psychology was no longer dominated by the kind of behaviorism that, with its stimulus-response models, rejected consciousness as superfluous. But even subsequent paradigms in the cognitive sciences had no need for the concept of consciousness.

How much harder it was then for scientists who were researching “altered states of consciousness.” If consciousness itself was unworthy of attention, there was certainly no need to investigate altered states of consciousness.

[...] But what has enabled such a shift in scientific approach, whereby these “speculative” phenomena more and more are being examined by mainstream researchers? Perhaps it is thanks to a new generation of researchers, who completed their education in a society — reflected in its universities — that is moving toward greater social and psychological openness.

Perhaps linked to this new openness is the fact that more people who have had such intensive experiences have by now pursued scientific careers. The neurophilosopher Thomas Metzinger, who conducts research alongside Olaf Blanke, theoretically processing the results pertaining to the relationship between body and consciousness, had a few out-of-body experiences himself as a young adult — experiences that led to a search for answers.

Further, there are scientists whose own formative experiences, whether with meditation or with hallucinogens, influenced their choice of profession; some have gone on to investigate extraordinary states of consciousness. Of course, the employment of established methods of brain research in this work has been a factor in its growing acceptance in the scientific community as a whole. Ultimately, though, it is up to the researchers to first tackle the topic itself, then hold their ground in the arena of more traditional ideas and among entrenched academics who may not be so open to new ones.

“Openness to experience” is one of the five dominant human personality traits (the so-called Big Five). In his book “Consciousness Beyond Life,” Pim van Lommel shows how personality influences scientists to ignore phenomena, describing doctors’ attitude of denial toward the topic of near-death experience. The book recounts an episode that took place at a conference on the topic, when a doctor responded to a speaker:

“I’ve worked as a cardiologist for twenty-five years now, and I’ve never come across such absurd stories in my practice. I think this is complete nonsense; I don’t believe a word of it.”

Whereupon another man stood up and said, “I’m one of your patients. A couple of years ago I survived a cardiac arrest and had an NDE, and you would be the last person I’d ever tell.”

Scientific dogmas and attitudes to life are scarcely ever changed through rational argument. Such shifts require life-changing experiences, of the “road to Damascus” kind, that affect the researcher emotionally.

Toward the end of his life and after a heart attack, the logical positivist A. J. Ayer, whose philosophy might be summed up as “only what can be empirically proven and is factually and logically correct exists,” had a near-death experience that at least got him thinking. The London Sunday Telegraph gave Ayer’s description of his near-death experience the strapline “What I saw when I was dead.” If Ayer had previously been an avowed atheist, who assumed that there was nothing after an individual’s death, he now spoke more cautiously.

He still remained an outstanding analyst, and reasoned that for a time after the cardiac arrest brain functions might still exist that could have produced these experiences. In his last essay, “Postscript to a Postmortem,” Ayer describes how, affected by his experience, he relinquished his polemical position against the belief in life after death in favor of a still skeptical but nevertheless more open-minded attitude. For him the idea of an afterlife was now at least worthy of research. And indeed for some years there has been vigorous research activity into near-death experience, which is published in the most important medical journals... (MORE - missing details)
Quote: If Ayer had previously been an avowed atheist, who assumed that there was nothing after an individual’s death, he now spoke more cautiously.

Who said an atheist can’t believe in an afterlife? What’s wrong with that?

Oh I’m sure there are some atheists who believe in no afterlife just as there are theists who say the old ‘there has to be something’ .
I once entered into an altered state of consciousness while staring at a candle flame across the room for a few minutes. At one point a visionary scene opened up in the glare of the candlelight of a drone-like view of a desolate and mountainous landscape. As I flew over the jagged mountains and plateaus I felt I was seeing another planet. I guess because that was more exciting to me at the time. But the vision soon faded back into the blurry glare of the flame, leaving me aghast that I had actually received a vision! What it meant I never found out.
Do spooky operating room experiences have something in common with UFO’s, as in professionals not reporting them for fear of ridicule and loss of employment? Are they something people want to be true?
Quote from earlier post here:
"Who said an atheist can’t believe in an afterlife? What’s wrong with that?"

What's wrong is that given the normal understanding of atheism = materialism, it makes exactly zero logical sense. ZERO. A very brief summary as to why:
Materialism absolutely requires emergence of life via blind chemical evolutionary processes. Thence eventually mind/consciousness via material Darwinian evolutionary processes.
Where in any of those strictly materialistic steps is there a possibility of a non-material 'essence' allowing a continued existence aka afterlife emerging?
Of course there is none.
There's one thing firmly established by brain studies. It's that animal mind/consciousness absolutely needs an enormously complex physical substrate - the brain.
If the goal of GAI is ever realized, it will likewise be based on an extremely sophisticated, necessarily dual union software/physical-hardware system.

The waters are muddied however because 'atheist' has taken on an illogical rubber band flexibility, that *somehow* allows a universe populated with non-material 'essences' including ghosts of the departed and such. No theory worth calling one is ever invoked - how could it be?

All that's required for flexi-atheism is that an ultimate Deity is excluded by fiat. Anything else goes it seems.