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PRESS RELEASE: Small omnivorous and insectivorous dinosaurs may have flapped small, feathered primitive wings to scare prey out of hiding places, according to a study published in Scientific Reports. The authors built a robot dinosaur named Robopteryx to investigate how grasshoppers responded to different potential scaring behaviours, and speculate that the results could help explain why feathered wings evolved before they were capable of flight in some types of dinosaurs.

Although the remains of numerous species of feathered dinosaurs have been discovered, so far only members of one group of dinosaurs known as Pennaraptora have been discovered with pennaceous feathers — the type of feathers required for flight. Fossils show that these developed first on small primitive or proto-wings that were not strong enough for flight and whose functions are currently unknown.

Jinseok Park, Hyungpil Moon, Yuong‑Nam Lee, Sang‑im Lee, Piotr Jablonski, and colleagues hypothesise that the proto-wings may have been used for ‘flush-pursuit’ foraging, a hunting strategy observed in multiple species of contemporary insectivorous and omnivorous bird species such as the greater roadrunner (Geococcyx californianus) and the northern mockingbird (Mimus polyglottos). This strategy consists of predators using displays of contrasting-coloured feathers on their wings and tails to startle prey out of hiding and into fleeing, at which point they can be pursued and caught.

The authors built a robot named Robopteryx to test their hypothesis, basing it on the size, shape, and estimated movement range of the pennaraptoran dinosaur Caudipteryx — a two-legged, peacock-sized predator that lived approximately 124 million years ago. They then used Robopteryx to imitate several variations of flush-pursuit display behaviours — with the full sequence consisting of spreading the proto-wings and raising a tail, pausing with them outstretched, then folding them back — and observed the behavioural response of grasshoppers to the display behaviour. Grasshoppers were used as they respond to flush-pursuit display behaviour and belong to the order Orthoptera which existed concurrently with Caudipteryx.

The authors found significant positive associations between the use of the proto-wings in the display behaviour and both the likelihood of the grasshopper fleeing — with 93% of tested grasshoppers fleeing when the proto-wings were used compared to 47% without — and how far away Robopteryx was when they fled. They also found significant associations between both the presence of white patches on the proto-wings and the presence of feathers on the tail and the likelihood of the grasshopper fleeing.

The authors conclude that their results with Robopteryx support the flush-pursuit hypothesis, and provide a new perspective on why feathered wings and tails may have initially evolved in dinosaurs.

https://youtu.be/hdTjw2yUrk0
Quote: This strategy consists of predators using displays of contrasting-coloured feathers on their wings and tails to startle prey out of hiding and into fleeing, at which point they can be pursued and caught.

Unfortunately the accompanying video only shows prey already out in the open. Don’t think they’ve proven their point with that mechanical contraption.

They may have proven that being big isn’t ideal for hunting grasshoppers in an open area.

I imagine the mechanical bird & grasshopper movements were quick …. Why not slo-mo following a real time event?

The winged machine whom I’ll call Rodan actually appears to frighten another bird into flight around 3-4 second mark
Grasshoppers in grass are quite well camof green. If you can make them jump about then you know when you're in grasshopper territory and it's worth focussing in to find them. If there were two of you you could drive the grasshoppers towards your friend and they could see where they landed. Grasshoppers are unusual in that they can fly but they don't seem to like doing it so whether they fly or jump they don't actually go very far. Grasshoppers only happen in summer so you'd need to be able to catch something else the rest of the year. I don't think mice had been invented back then so probably bigger dinosours chasing smaller ones (or baby ones). Hm. Flying is easier when you're smaller so maybe small feathery dinosours started the fashion for feathers which became less useful for flying as they got bigger.
(Jan 26, 2024 11:54 AM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]Grasshoppers in grass are quite well camof green. If you can make them jump about then you know when you're in grasshopper territory and it's worth focussing in to find them. If there were two of you you could drive the grasshoppers towards your friend and they could see where they landed. Grasshoppers are unusual in that they can fly but they don't seem to like doing it so whether they fly or jump they don't actually go very far. Grasshoppers only happen in summer so you'd need to be able to catch something else the rest of the year. I don't think mice had been invented back then so probably bigger dinosours chasing smaller ones (or baby ones). Hm. Flying is easier when you're smaller so maybe small feathery dinosours started the fashion for feathers which became less useful for flying as they got bigger.

When looking for the golf ball I just hit into the tall grass there’s a tendency for some grasshoppers to fly off. Perhaps if we were around back in Dino Days then all the flapping reptiles would have to do is inhabit a golf course.

Still, if you want to prove flapping Dinos reveal hidden hoppers then perhaps it’s necessary to actually experiment where they’re hiding.

What is the current prevailing thought? By making themselves look bigger, smaller dinosaurs can avoid a predator? I’ll go with that one if so.
Z. Wrote:What is the current prevailing thought? By making themselves look bigger, smaller dinosaurs can avoid a predator? I’ll go with that one if so.
"Why the huge wings,Mateosaur?"
"I got these for frightening grasshoppers.".
Maybe, maybe not.