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(Jul 27, 2022 09:19 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]Rishi Sunak scrap the 5 per cent VAT
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 Liz Truss Women and Girls Strategy

cliche virtue signalling

Lizz wants to define a gender difference to gain more votes
Rishi wants to hammer down fiscal policy to look like a wonk

have they scrapped the winter fuel subsidy ?

how is a new register going to prevent repeat offenders of violent crime ?
it will be all cost and no force

what happened to the old register ?(if it has no teeth it is a waste of money that could be spent on womens refuges)

what about government funding of womens refuges

looks like grandstanding on things they wont cost money and dont have any achievable critical outcome

how about some comments about BREXIT and their individual strategys around that ?

Campaign update: Day 22 (Guido Fawkes)
https://order-order.com/2022/07/28/campa...te-day-22/

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Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak face grilling from Tory members in first official hustings
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk...-hustings/

EXCERPTS: UK Conservative leadership candidates Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak took their campaigns to northern England on Thursday to lay out their cases to become the next prime minister to party members.

Seeking to woo northern votes in the race for No 10, the candidates were quizzed separately on a vast array of policy areas — as well as their predictions for the Women’s Euro 2022 final.

The final two contenders will hold another 11 sessions for the party faithful across the country before voting for the next Tory leader and prime minister closes on September 2.

The event, hosted by LBC’s Nick Ferrari, took place in Leeds, where Ms Truss started by capitalising on her Yorkshire roots. Referencing her upbringing in the city, she said it was “fantastic” to be in her “old stomping ground” and added that she hoped none of her former teachers were in the audience.

[...] Former chancellor Mr Sunak said he was “having the time of my life” campaigning for the top job. He spoke on his approach to punishing Russia for its war Ukraine.

“If we can have a buyers’ cartel in the world where everyone would agree to pay a fixed amount for Russian energy and enforce that through secondary sanctions, which we were working on how to do, that would be a way to make sure we get the energy we need at prices that are far better for us and deprive Russia of revenue that is funding its war effort,” he said.

Ms Truss told the hustings she would return the whips’ office to 12 Downing Street. She also insisted “single-sex spaces should be protected”, particularly for young people. Addressing Ms Truss, an audience member called for a policy that guarantees girls can go to the toilet in a safe environment in any school in the country... (MORE - missing details)

Campaign update: Day 23 (Guido Fawkes)
https://order-order.com/2022/07/29/campa...te-day-23/

Snowball in summer rolling. Looks like this race is effectively over before even August. Just the formal procedures to carry out and official declaration, later.
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Liz Truss has 90% chance over ‘underdog’ Rishi Sunak to be next UK PM: Report
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/li...2022-07-30

INTRO: As the race to become the next UK prime minister enters the final lap, UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss has been rated a 90 per cent shot to succeed former Prime Minister Boris Johnson as the head of the UK Conservative Party and the prime minister, according to betting exchange firm Smarkets.

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Liz Truss is on course for a collision with UK economic reality
https://www.macon.com/news/nation-world/...08991.html

EXCERPTS: Liz Truss looks an increasingly strong favorite to overcome Rishi Sunak and replace Boris Johnson as the U.K.’s prime minister. Her next target will be the British civil service. The 47-year-old foreign secretary has promised to start cutting taxes from day one if she turns her wide polling lead into a victory over Sunak when the governing Conservatives announce their next leader on Sept. 5. Truss has brushed off concerns about surging inflation and public debt to pin the blame for Britain’s lackluster performance on the stale thinking of the economic establishment.

[...] The real collision, one official said, won’t be with the Treasury, but with reality. Truss and her team recognize they would be facing a race against time to implement her tax cuts and cost-of-living measures before bills soar and families go under. New leaders often talk about having 100 days to make their mark. If she does take office in early September, Truss might have as little as three weeks, one ally said... (MORE - missing details)

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Tom Tugendhat endorses Liz Truss in Conservative leadership race
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/eu...ship-race/

INTRO: Former Conservative leadership candidate Tom Tugendhat has endorsed Foreign Secretary Liz Truss in the race to be Britain's next prime minister. Mr Tugendhat, who was knocked out in the third round of balloting by MPs, praised Ms Truss's tax-cutting promises and her experience in foreign affairs - drawing two contrasts with rival candidate Rishi Sunak.

"Liz’s plan for the economy is founded on true Conservative principles of low tax, a lean state and bold supply-side reform," Mr Tugendhat wrote in The Times. "Liz has always stood up for British values at home, and abroad. With her at the helm, I have no doubt that we will move with determination to make this country safer and more secure." (MORE - details)

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Truss plays down lead over Sunak as more senior backers boost her campaign
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/...79684.html

INTRO: Liz Truss has played down claims she has a clear lead over rival Rishi Sunak, even as her campaign was further buoyed by endorsements of party heavyweights on a crunch weekend in the race for No 10.

The Foreign Secretary insisted it was a “very, very close race,” while trumpeting her “support from right across all parts of the Conservative Party” after gaining Tory centrist Tom Tugendhat’s backing.

Mr Sunak, who has consistently trailed Ms Truss in polls of party members, faces an uphill battle to win them over before ballots start landing on their doorsteps next week... (MORE - details)

i can sense the media tidal shift toward lizz
but that wont make any difference to the actual people who will be voting for her.

they will roll lizz a lot easier than rishi so i think they will side with lizz thinking short term solution and then run rishi in the next election as the saviour

beleaguered torys get hory
hacker fears delay voting as conservatives make a ham fist of sending out ballots

note comment about double voting
i bet they have messed up thier mailer list and now trying to cover it up

160,000 members will decide who runs the country
split = 80,000 each
total number of deciding votes ?
no more than 20,000 im guessing

but i suspect they are going to drag this out as long as possible to try and find some public media support for a preferential choice between RinseMe Bumyack and Listeria Trussed

will it be the potato or the turnip ?

i think the MPs are split & cant decide which donkey to pin the tail on

Campaign update: Aug 05
https://order-order.com/2022/08/05/campa...y-fallout/

Liz Truss interrupted by climate protestors: https://youtu.be/ZxXq-oEHq5U

Aug 5, 2022 - In full: Tory leadership hustings - Rishi Sunak faces Liz Truss in wake of damaging video leak ... https://youtu.be/yK3TER_rcHI

(Aug 5, 2022 09:33 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]Aug 5, 2022 - in wake of damaging video leak ...

link ?

i started watching the full 90 minute preaching session but my brain started to wither & die.

i notice Listeria Trussed was doing a pitch to mothers of school children when the protesters started up.

she is looking for working class female support.
she claims to have grown up working class.
RinseMe Suncrack claims to have working class roots also

conservative swing voters who side with equal access to opportunity must think they are getting out of touch with the common brit.

how they handle BREXIT and the finances is going to make the biggest difference, assume listeria doesn't install some nazi state with her anti union speech.

the conservative party appear to go through leaders like a 2nd hand undie jumble sale discount bin rummage.
knickers knickers everywhere
and not a pair to wear my dear
they all have holes in wrong places

(Aug 5, 2022 10:33 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug 5, 2022 09:33 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ]Aug 5, 2022 - in wake of damaging video leak ...

link ?

Rishi Sunak admits taking money from deprived urban areas. Distributing it to towns, rural areas.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...ived-areas
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/r...o-27671816

EXCERPTS: ...Tunbridge Wells has a Tory majority of 14,645 and has been held by the party since the constituency was created in 1974. An analysis by the Guardian in February found that, under Boris Johnson’s “levelling up” agenda, some of the wealthiest parts of England, including areas represented by government ministers, were allocated 10 times more money per capita than the poorest.

[...] Labour’s Lisa Nandy, the shadow levelling up secretary, said: “This is scandalous. Rishi Sunak is openly boasting that he fixed the rules to funnel taxpayers’ money to rich Tory shires. This is our money. It should be spent fairly and where it’s most needed – not used as a bribe to Tory members. Talk about showing your true colours.”

Sunak’s Conservative colleagues were divided over the footage. The Foreign Office minister Zac Goldsmith said: “This is one of the weirdest – and dumbest – things I’ve ever heard from a politician.” 

[...] Earlier, Sunak told Sky News that he was making the point that "deprivation exists right across our country".

[...] "I want to level up everywhere ... We inherited a bunch of formulas from Labour that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas and that needed to be undone. I started the work of undoing that.”

He said: "That's why we need to make sure our funding formulas recognise that. People who need help and extra investment aren't just limited to big urban areas. You find them in towns across the United Kingdom and in rural areas, too. And that was the point I was making, that our funding formulas that fail to recognise that are out of date, and they needed changing."

As stated before, this horse race has ended up being finished long before it's official on the track. Little reason to continue updates.
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Campaign Update: August 08: Cost of Living Battle Lines Drawn
https://order-order.com/2022/08/08/campa...nes-drawn/

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Liz Beating Rishi
https://order-order.com/2022/08/08/liz-b...n-waiting/

INTRO: Opinium’s latest polling puts Liz far ahead of Rishi amongst Tory voters, with 2019 Tories now giving her 26-point lead at 48% to 22%. The previous survey had Rishi ahead on “looking like a Prime Minister in waiting“. That lead has now evaporated: Truss is leading on all measures with the Tories.

Even worse for Rishi is his polling against Starmer. In head-to-head polling, Liz beats Starmer amongst all voters by 1 point at 29% to 28%. Rishi, meanwhile, trails Starmer at 28% to 24%. Rishi and his supporters are still pushing the polls from last month showing him best placed to beat Sir Keir. That’s looking like a pretty weak claim now… (MORE - details)