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Does religion protect against suicide? + Myth-making & disability in Africa

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Does religion protect against suicide?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...102328.htm

RELEASE: Religious participation is linked to lower suicide rates in many parts of the world, including the United States and Russia, but does not protect against the risk of suicide in sections of Europe and Asia, finds new research by a Michigan State University scholar.
In Catholic-dominant Western and Southern Europe, residents appear to be placing less importance on God and religion and have less confidence in religious institutions. In East Asia, traditional faiths such as Buddhism and Confucianism focus on individual spirituality rather than collective spirituality, which entails social support and moral guidance.

"Secularization and the individual pursuit of spirituality are two important factors that weaken the strength of local religious communities, and this reduces the protective nature of religious participation against suicide," said MSU sociologist Ning Hsieh, whose findings are published in the Journal of Health and Social Behavior.

Suicide is one of the 20 leading causes of death worldwide. While the religion-suicide relationship is hotly contested among researchers, the current study is one of the first to examine that relationship outside Western industrialized countries.

Funded by the National Institutes of Health, the study analyzes data on suicides and religious participation from 1981 to 2007 in 42 countries encompassing seven regions. Religious participation is measured by the percentage of people attending religious services at least once a month

Hsieh found that religious participation is related to higher suicide rates in:

Southern Europe, which includes Croatia, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Slovenia and Spain

Western Europe, which includes Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Netherlands.

East Asia, which includes China, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

The regions are classified by geography except for English-speaking countries, which are grouped based on shared cultural values. Those countries are Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Religious participation protected against suicide in many countries in the English-speaking region as well as in Latin America, Eastern Europe and Northern Europe.
Hsieh said the United States and other Western countries outside Europe, including Australia and Canada, have also experienced secularization, albeit more slowly than Western and Southern Europe. The United States in particular remains more religious than most Western societies, she said, in part due to immigration and more decentralized political and educational systems that are inclusive of religious views.

Although suicide is a global health concern, Hsieh noted, suicide prevention should consider regional and local norms, values and religious institutional circumstances.
"Without a careful consideration of context, a policy that is effective in one country or region may aggravate suicide risk in another," she said.



Coming face-to-face with disability could end supernatural myth-making in Africa
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...152834.htm

RELEASE: Many people in rural African communities still believe that disability is caused by supernatural forces, curses and as 'punishment' for wrongdoings -- according to University of East Anglia research.

The resultant stigma leaves disabled people vulnerable to neglect and abuse -- with sexual abuse reported by 90 per cent of people with learning difficulties.

Many disabled children are kept 'locked up' at home -- often for their own safety. But the more that communities come into contact with disability, the more awareness and understanding grows.

Meanwhile medical explanations for disability are beginning to emerge, with increasing numbers of families seeking medical advice for children with disabilities rather than consulting a witchdoctor.

The 'Preparation of Communities: Using personal narratives to affect attitudes to disability in Kilifi, Kenya (Pre-Call)' project was set up to promote disability awareness in small communities in a rural part of Kenya, by encouraging a process of reflection and education.
The research team at the Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI) led focus groups to find out how cultural beliefs and knowledge shape people's understanding of disability.

The discussions involved 21 community groups located across the five constituencies of Kilifi County, bordered one side by the Indian Ocean coast and stretching into the rural interior. A total of 263 participants were involved who observed Christianity (70 per cent), traditional religious practices (20 per cent) and Islam (10 per cent).
Lead researcher Dr Karen Bunning, from UEA's School of Health Sciences, said: "Information on the medical causes of childhood disability are not widely available across communities in low-income countries and understanding is generally poor.

"In Namibia for example albinism is explained by the mother having sex with a white man or a ghost. And in Guinea-Bissau, epilepsy is widely thought of as being caused by evil spirits, or sometimes as a punishment for wrongdoing.

"We found that disability is often explained by things like extra marital affairs invoking a curse, witchcraft, supernatural forces such as demons or ghosts affecting the child, and the will of God.

"Curvature of the spine or limbs represented the effects of a curse, saliva production was linked to demons and ill-gotten financial gain.

"The different explanations represent a real mixture of traditional, religious and biomedical beliefs," she added. "And while biomedical factors such as inherited conditions or antenatal care were increasingly talked about, these explanations did not negate other culturally-based accounts."

The findings reveal that underpinning all of these explanations is a desire to make sense of disability and, particularly for carers, to improve the given situation. And where an explanation of wrongdoing or the presence of an evil force might result in a visit to a local witchdoctor, a medical attribution might be followed with a visit to a medical centre.

The project also looked at the challenges faced by people with disabilities and their carers.

Dr Bunning said: "What tends to happen is that these types of cultural beliefs affect how individuals with disabilities view themselves and how other people see them. Attributing the child's condition to some form of malevolent preternatural force by reference to demons, evil spirits and witchcraft contributes to the view of disability as both undesirable and unacceptable.

"People with disabilities in Africa have poor access to health provision, low school attendance, limited employment rates and low wages. More extreme consequences include neglect and abuse -- with sexual abuse reported to occur at some time in the lives of 90 per cent of the population with learning difficulties.

People with communication difficulties are at a high level of risk because they are less able to report abuse.
"We found that children with disabilities are often kept apart from the local community in restricted environments -- contributing to the social distance between them. Although in many cases this is to protect them from abuse and keep them safe.

"The burden of caring for family members with disabilities also led to discrimination by association," she added. "And the stigma associated with people with disabilities is so great that it also extends to anyone trying to help. The implication being that anyone offering help would also give birth to a disabled child.

"But we found that the more people come into contact with disability, the better their understanding. Real life encounters with people who have disabilities can be a really positive step, so raising disability awareness in small communities can really help."

'The perception of disability by community groups: Stories of local understanding, beliefs and challenges in a rural part of Kenya' is published in PLOS ONE on August 3, 2017 . The research was led by UEA (UK) in collaboration with the Kenya Medical Research Institute (Kenya), the University of Oxford (UK) and the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (UK).

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Religion protects against suicide but only in the sense that it protects against taking charge of your own life to make your own decisions and follow your own dreams. That is the danger of owning your own destiny---it exposes you the very real possibilities of suicide and self-destruction. That is one of the options of a free spirit facing the task of creating their own meaning without the crutch of religion.
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(Sep 19, 2017 06:37 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Religion protects against suicide but only in the sense that it protects against taking charge of your own life to make your own decisions and follow your own dreams. That is the danger of owning your own destiny---it exposes you the very real possibilities of suicide and self-destruction. That is one of the options of a free spirit facing the task of creating their own meaning without the crutch of religion.

Nonsense. That's just your "I'm gay and hate religion" bias showing. How else do you explain religious conservatives favoring small government and personal responsibility? You hate them precisely because they feel they can judge you, personally, for your own choices...because they feel responsible and judged for their own.

Or you're just depressed (very likely among gays) and justifying it to yourself as some noble challenge.
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(Sep 19, 2017 06:37 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Religion protects against suicide but only in the sense that it protects against taking charge of your own life to make your own decisions and follow your own dreams. That is the danger of owning your own destiny---it exposes you the very real possibilities of suicide and self-destruction. That is one of the options of a free spirit facing the task of creating their own meaning without the crutch of religion.


Good way to put it, as far as the most controlling, protect the peasants from temptation, guided by rote religious and ideologically dogmatic establishments in general have gone. “Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.” --G.O.

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(Sep 19, 2017 10:32 PM)C C Wrote:
(Sep 19, 2017 06:37 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Religion protects against suicide but only in the sense that it protects against taking charge of your own life to make your own decisions and follow your own dreams. That is the danger of owning your own destiny---it exposes you the very real possibilities of suicide and self-destruction. That is one of the options of a free spirit facing the task of creating their own meaning without the crutch of religion.


Good way to put it, as far as the most controlling, protect the peasants from temptation, guided by rote religious and ideologically dogmatic establishments in general have gone. “Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.” --G.O.

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Always easier to conform your behavior to what some book or church tells you is right and wrong than actually deciding what is right and wrong for yourself. That's why religious moralism is the standard refuge of the spineless and weakwilled---people who never matured in life and have to depend on pleasing some invisible father figure to feel special and important in this life. So much safer and more comfortable to just become skydaddy's special child with all the promises of protection and eternal heaven----to live in that black and white fantasy world where right and wrong are all predecided for you--- than treking out on your own in an uncertain and risky world and becoming a thinking and self-determining being.
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(Sep 19, 2017 11:47 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Always easier to conform your behavior to what some book or church tells you is right and wrong than actually deciding what is right and wrong for yourself.

You mean like moral relativism, where you can justify any behavior because you don't have any real guidelines? Sure buddy, much easier to follow strict rules than just do whatever you like. Rolleyes
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Quote:You mean like moral relativism, where you can justify any behavior because you don't have any real guidelines?

I mean using reason and judgment and experience to decide what's right for you according the situation just like all reality is. Living in a bubble of shoulds and oughts just doesn't hack it. A morality based on abstract generalizations and rules doesn't apply to the real world of complicated and grey predicaments we face everyday. It requires good judgment, a faculty moral absolutists are totally lacking in.
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(Sep 21, 2017 08:22 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:You mean like moral relativism, where you can justify any behavior because you don't have any real guidelines?

I mean using reason and judgment and experience to decide what's right for you according the situation just like all reality is. Living in a bubble of shoulds and oughts just doesn't hack it.
Yeah, "decide what's right for you" according to whatever whim you can justify to yourself. Rolleyes
Quote:A morality based on abstract generalizations and rules doesn't apply to the real world of complicated and grey predicaments we face everyday. It requires good judgment, a faculty moral absolutists are totally lacking in.
LOL! So every moral choice a Christian may face is spelled out in the Bible? Rolleyes
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Quote:Yeah, "decide what's right for you" according to whatever whim you can justify to yourself. Rolleyes

There is no other kind of right. What is right always depends on the context, the situation, and the person or persons involved. What is right for one person may not be right for another. What is right under some circumstances may not be right under others. Nothing is set in stone. There are general values we hold, but these values often conflict. So we judge what course to take based on reason and experience.

Quote:LOL! So every moral choice a Christian may face is spelled out in the Bible?

That's the source of their morality. If they aren't using it to justify their decisions, then they aren't being consistent moral absolutists.
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(Sep 21, 2017 11:00 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: What is right always depends on the context, the situation, and the person or persons involved. What is right for one person may not be right for another.
Yeah, that's called moral relativism.

Moral relativism is the view that moral judgments are true or false only relative to some particular standpoint (for instance, that of a culture or a historical period) and that no standpoint is uniquely privileged over all others.

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Quote:LOL! So every moral choice a Christian may face is spelled out in the Bible?

That's the source of their morality. If they aren't using it to justify their decisions, then they aren't being consistent moral absolutists.

Moral absolutism is an ethical view that particular actions are intrinsically right or wrong.

Not that every moral choice is absolutely spelled out. And moral absolutism is not moral universalism, which deems things like opinions morally irrelevant. Most Christians are moral universalists more than moral absolutists. After all, many Christians believe in self-defense even though murder is immoral.
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