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What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - C C - Aug 18, 2017
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/trumps-monument-mystery/537216/
EXCERPT: On Thursday morning, President Donald Trump announced his unequivocal support for preserving statues of Confederate generals and leaders [...] In full, his tweets read: “Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You can't change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson—who's next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns, and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!”
It was not the first time he had spoken about monuments—national or otherwise. In April, Trump ordered the Department of the Interior to review whether every national monument created since 1996 should be eliminated or shrunk from its current size. His order put protections for tens of millions of acres of public land in doubt.
These are not the same type of monuments, of course. [...] The national monuments of Trump’s April executive order [...] are areas of federally owned land set aside for their natural beauty or cultural significance. [...] One of the sites most likely to be downsized is Bears Ears National Monument in southeastern Utah, which was created by the Obama administration in December of last year. It encompasses more than 2,000 square miles of wilderness—desert, shrub, canyon, and peak—including two enormous buttes that give the area its name. Since the late 1990s, some Republicans, especially in the West, have argued that national monuments created by the Clinton and Obama administrations were too large and exceeded the Antiquities Act’s authority....
MORE: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/trumps-monument-mystery/537216/
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - RainbowUnicorn - Aug 18, 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Slave_Memorial ?
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Syne - Aug 18, 2017
Parks and preserves are not monuments. This article is an equivocating piece of crap.
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Magical Realist - Aug 20, 2017
(Aug 18, 2017 10:54 PM)Syne Wrote: Parks and preserves are not monuments. This article is an equivocating piece of crap.
"There are 129 protected areas in the United States known as national monuments. The President of the United States can establish a national monument by presidential proclamation, and the United States Congress can do so by legislation."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Syne - Aug 20, 2017
(Aug 20, 2017 12:52 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:(Aug 18, 2017 10:54 PM)Syne Wrote: Parks and preserves are not monuments. This article is an equivocating piece of crap.
"There are 129 protected areas in the United States known as national monuments. The President of the United States can establish a national monument by presidential proclamation, and the United States Congress can do so by legislation."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
"The President's authority arises from the Antiquities Act of 1906, which authorizes the President to proclaim "historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest" as national monuments." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Magical Realist - Aug 20, 2017
(Aug 20, 2017 01:27 AM)Syne Wrote:(Aug 20, 2017 12:52 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:(Aug 18, 2017 10:54 PM)Syne Wrote: Parks and preserves are not monuments. This article is an equivocating piece of crap.
"There are 129 protected areas in the United States known as national monuments. The President of the United States can establish a national monument by presidential proclamation, and the United States Congress can do so by legislation."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
"The President's authority arises from the Antiquities Act of 1906, which authorizes the President to proclaim "historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest" as national monuments." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
They're national monuments you moron. That's what they're called.
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Syne - Aug 20, 2017
"Jimmy Carter protected vast parts of Alaska, proclaiming fifteen national monuments, some of which later were promoted to national parks." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Magical Realist - Aug 20, 2017
(Aug 20, 2017 03:18 AM)Syne Wrote: "Jimmy Carter protected vast parts of Alaska, proclaiming fifteen national monuments, some of which later were promoted to national parks." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States
What does that have to do with anything?
They're national monuments. That's what they're called.
RE: What kind of monuments does President Trump value? (monument styles) - Syne - Aug 20, 2017
As much as I'm having fun watching MR argue nothing but quotes from his own cited source, I think I'll give him a break...since he obviously didn't even realize how ridiculous he was being.